Posted on 04/14/2022 5:34:22 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
Ukraine said its forces struck and seriously damaged the flagship of Russia's Black Sea fleet, dealing a potentially major setback to Moscow's troops as they try to regroup for a renewed offensive in eastern Ukraine after retreating from much of the north, including the capital.
Russia said Thursday the entire crew of the Moskva, a warship that would typically have 500 sailors on board, was forced to evacuate after a fire overnight and also reported it was badly damaged. But it did not acknowledge any attack, which, in addition to any practical impact, would also deal a major blow to Russian prestige seven weeks into a war that is already widely seen as a historic blunder.
The damage to the ship came hours after some of Ukraine's allies sought to rally new support for the embattled country. On a visit with leaders from three other EU countries on Russia's doorstep who fear they could next be in Moscow's sights, Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda declared that “the fight for Europe’s future is happening here.”
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Newsmax has articles reporting both Russian and Ukrainian Claims.
The only thing less trustworthy than “officials say” is “Ukrainians claim”.
Ukraine likely hit it with one or more anti-ship missiles as they claim. Alternatively, Ukraine became aware of the situation on the ship through communication intercepts and rushed to falsely claim they are responsible. Who over here really knows?
In any case, the ship is out of commission now.
Ukraine says they blew the ship out of the water.
Russia says the ship spontaneously combusted and sank.
One is propaganda and the other is somewhere close to the truth.
The Russian media says there was a fire due to a “detonation of munitions”, which one can interpret in any way. They also say the main armaments are intact and the ship is afloat.
The only thing less trustworthy than “officials say” is “Ukrainians claim”
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Even more, never ever trust when they bring in “expert” talking heads.
“Oh ye of little faith”
The operational loss of the Moskva will likely increase the collateral damage from this conflict.
“The only thing less trustworthy than “officials say” is “Ukrainians claim”.”
There is something less trustworthy: Anything with .ru or .rt or TASS in its address.
Finish off and sink this Russian invader ship.
Either the Ukrainians hit the Russian flagship Moskva or it spontaneously combusted. Are you catching on that, either answer makes the Russians look stupid?
Stupid Russians will kill you just as dead as smart ones, but you know that, that’s why you’re not over there.
Precisely. An awful lot of people seem to want the US to go to war with Russia; if that happens, and the "stupid" Ruskies decide to take out a CVN or three, or maybe NATO headquarters, I wonder how many posts we'll see that amount to, "That wasn't fair!" or "That wasn't supposed to happen!"...
;>)
Be careful what you wish for.
Putin is desperately looking for fuel truck drivers, but for some reason you're not over there.
Exactly.
Just one example of why I no longer visit newsmax.
“Alternatively, Ukraine became aware of the situation on the ship through communication intercepts and rushed to falsely claim they are responsible.”
There are many here who would have others believe that radio waves propagate slower than the internet, ukraine’s claim being first & all... /s
and .gov
Its a proxy war. Ignoring Russian invasions is not a credible response.
“and .gov”
For sure.
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