[usconservative]

The Moskva, the Russian Black Sea Fleet flagship, is the head vessel of Project 1164 Atlant. It was put into operation as the Slava in 1983

That was a hell of a shot by the Ukranian's. Took out their best ship in the Black Sea.

If the best ship the Russians had in the Black Sea was built in 1983 and is now at the bottom of the Black Sea, I'd say the Russkie's are f***ed.

They do not know how to fight a war. Clearly the Ukranians do. They're certainly fighting the smarter war here.

[WoofDog123]

i doubt they are the ones calling the shots in this war. they are a proxy for the US in this.

[Spktyr]

We’re not a lot better off right now. We have a lot of combatants that are that old or the base design is that old, and they’re the best we have in several theaters.