[Lurker]

Hitting an American warship in the Pacific Ocean is several orders of magnitude removed from hitting a Russian warship in the Black Sea.

Not that I am minimizing the issue, just that they’re not analogous.

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[marktwain]

Hitting an American warship in the Pacific Ocean is several orders of magnitude removed from hitting a Russian warship in the Black Sea.

Not sure I agree. It is very hard to hide large ships from satellite observations.

Range makes a big difference, but once within range...

Maybe one order of magnitude, if we are lucky, and most of that due to training and advanced sensors... The Russians may well be overconfident. It could be a big factor. If the Moskva is sinking, a lot of people will sit up and pay attention.

[Travis McGee]

I disagree. There is no more hiding in the big wide ocean in 2022. The Pacific is just as finite as Lake Erie to modern sensors.

[Rockingham]

Quite true. Russia's naval ships lack the defense capabilities, damage resistance, and damage control that are integral to US Navy vessels. The Soviet Navy and its relics like the Moskva may seem fearsome, but that are like big ugly boxers who cannot take a hard punch.