There are more than 400 abandoned tanks at the plant in a secret, heavily guarded depot in the town of Kharkiv
Posted on 04/05/2022 7:02:39 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
The Czech Republic has been sending old Soviet-era tanks into Ukraine, providing badly needed heavy weapons to outgunned Ukrainian troops that are battling a much better-equipped Russian invasion force.
The efforts, described by three Czech and Slovak officials, mark the first time a foreign country has provided tanks to Ukraine since Russia’s invasion began Feb. 24. In a potentially even more important development, both the Czech Republic and neighboring Slovakia, which shares a border with Ukraine, are considering opening their military industrial installations to repair and refit damaged Ukrainian military equipment.
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What they really need is some missiles to shoot
down high flying Jets. Javelins only have a
2 mile high range.
Russian ships will soon attack Odessa unless
they are sunk by Tow missiles or Harpoon anti
ship missiles.
I don’t know if Ukraine has mine laying boats
and a supply of land mines to make a Russian
beach landing difficult.
In Texas or North Dakota?
Serious question
Ukraine doesn’t have any Navy left...kaput
There are more than 400 abandoned tanks at the plant in a secret, heavily guarded depot in the town of Kharkiv
Where do you live in Russia?
The Texas border does not need any tanks, it needs a different President.
“It’s too bad we have no credibility as an honest broker of a peace deal between the combatants. Then we might help stop the killing.”
And what is that an “honest broker” would suggest?
I wouldn’t deign to guess. Something that would cause all the killing to stop, I suppose. Whatever agreement the two combatant parties decide is sufficient.
But it won’t happen without a third party with moral standing, which this administration does not have.
Is the goal to make the Russians use more bombs to blow them up?
The same one's littering the countryside because they are vulnerable to anti-tank missiles or do the Russians not have anti-tank missiles.
These are our tanks. We won’t let Putin’s American admirers tell us what to do with them.
By the way, if you listen to what Putin’s ideologues are saying, you will realize that Russian ambitions do not end in Ukraine. They want to annex the Baltic states too. Don’t you think it is better to help Ukraine stop Russia now? It can be done without American boots on the ground because Ukrainians are willing to fight. They can seriously wound the Russian war machine, but they need to be supplied with arms because the Russians have more troops, tanks and artillery.
Imagine that Russia defeats and destroys Ukraine. In 10 years Russia will attack the Baltic states. Then, there will have to be American boots on the ground because the Baltic states are NATO members. The risk of Russia using nuclear weapons will be substantially higher. Is this really preferable?
Why not stop Russia now?
“I wouldn’t deign to guess. Something that would cause all the killing to stop, I suppose. Whatever agreement the two combatant parties decide is sufficient.” .....”But it won’t happen without a third party with moral standing”
Nonsense. Who was the “third party” that brought the U.S. and Japan to the peace table?
The “third party” was the defeat of Japan, militarily. And it is the defeat of Putin’s military aims that will require his concensions needed to end the conflict. Those concensions will have to honor the territorial outline of Ukraine and that its foreign relations are Ukraine’s to determine, not Putin’s.
Comprehensive defeat in detail didn’t even bring Japan to the peace table. Nuclear weapons did.
Most rational people sincerely hope that is not the case in Ukraine.
Well, if you listen to what some Russian ideologues close to the Kremlin are saying, you will hear that they not only want to “de-Nazify” Ukraine, but they also want to “de-Ukrainize” Ukraine. They simply don’t believe the Ukrainians are a legitimate nation. I doubt that any serious negotiations with such a partner are possible.
They’re shipping off to other states other than Texas?
All I have is hindsight, and what I know for certain is we've been consistently lied to by the same warhawks currently champing at the bit to get us deeper involved in Ukraine.
Not gonna get swept up in any appeals to emotion this time, especially with the stakes as high as they are.
Has he taken another vacay to Del.?
That usually means something serious is going to happen that requires a real leader and not a senile yellow bellied pervert.
Yep
It's a border dispute in Europe. We have our own, very serious, border collapse that is costing Americans their lives and tax dollars.
“Comprehensive defeat in detail didn’t even bring Japan to the peace table. Nuclear weapons did.”
No. It was a comprehensive defeat, merely by the U.S. choice to obtain it via the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, instead of the more devastating to both sides American total bombing and invasion of the four main Islands of Japan - Hokkaido, Honshu, Kyushu and Shikoku. The very bloody taking of Okinawa gave the U.S. a clear picture of the ferocity of what would be the Japanese Army defense on the four main Islands. A study done for Secretary of War Henry Stimson’s staff by William Shockley estimated that invading Japan would cost 1.7–4 million American casualties, including 400,000–800,000 fatalities, and five to ten million Japanese fatalities. We were capable of that effort, but Truman chose the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagaski to achieve the Japanese surrender without the invasion of Hokkaido, Honshu, Kyushsu and Shikoku. The result was the same - defeat of Japan’s war aims. Your argument is about means, not ends.
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