Posted on 04/05/2022 3:18:42 AM PDT by tlozo
I would be glad to see some forensic evidence. Nothing easier (these days) to determine than time of death, and whether or not a particular body had been relocated. Also the identity of the bodies.
Russia has asked for an independant investigation. Is one going on?
WOW!
Them doggone satellites are REALLY closeup capable now!
How?
Dude, you are completely retarded. Everyone, including reporters have seen the bodies. Even the Russians have stopped claiming they were actors, and now claim the Ukrainians did it.
As to you're moronic "hand" moves, there is a droplet of water that distorts the image.
These claims, seemingly sourced from pro-Russian social media users, were rapidly and thoroughly debunked by reporters and social media users, including BBC Monitoring’s Shayan Sardarizadeh.
Sardarizadeh highlighted the work of Aurora Intel which examined the “moving hand” claim and demonstrated it was more likely a water droplet moving across the windscreen.
It is also notable that the version of the video shared on social media by people claiming a hand can be seen moving cuts out the moment before and after the droplet moves over the body. This appears to misleadingly strengthen the impression of a hand movement, as detailed in the below post by Sardarizadeh.
The supposed moving corpse reflected in a car’s wing mirror, meanwhile, can be easily explained by the warping of the reflection, which also visibly affects other objects around the corpse.
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2022/04/04/russias-bucha-facts-versus-the-evidence/
The timeline gives away the scam. Russians pulled out Jan 30. The cameras arrived to show the bodies on April 3. The bodies are clearly not 3 days old, even a look at the videos shows this fact clearly. Forensic examination would be conclusive, but even the video shows these are not 3-day-old bodies.
Plus, the Russians pulled out at night. A guy was riding his bike with his dog in the middle of the night, in a war zone? Please.
A military performs a withdrawal with maximum stealth, leaving only a few elite recon troops as a rear guard to cover the withdrawal of the main force before the rear guard scrams last of all. The last thing they are going to do, at night, is take pot shots at civilians who just happened to be out walking around at night, in a war zone. The entire object of the withdrawal is to leave in secrecy, so that the enemy finally probes forward and discovers the enemy has left.
Good grief. People are SO gullible.
HMMMmmm...
Lol, did the Russians accept the independent investigation results that showed a Russian Buk shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17?
Three day old bodies (March 30 to April 3) would be blackened and suppurated.
These are not old bodies, not even 3 days old.
Both sides had those missiles.
"What I am, is against the invasion of a neighbouring state - which is what Putin is doing."
That's IT. That's why it's so easy to take the right side in this one.
Breaking News? More like breaking wind.
You keep posting untrue BS. First video of the massacre came out April 1. So, all the surviving Ukrainian villagers are ALL lying and the satellite image of bodies lying in Bucha March 19 are fake. Okay.
That's an easy one. It didn't.
The Russian timeline is bullshit since authorities stated they were still under total or partial occupation as of April 1st:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/04/1/7336277/
And here is a post as of April 2nd discussing atrocities. I recall reading about them even before the second, however, so this guy was late:
https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1510402861536055302
Third, the Satellite photos show the corpses, in the same spot they are today, as far back as March 15th.
BTW, if you are going to regurgitate Russia's Ministry of Defense, please cite that you are doing so instead of asking this question as if you aren't parroting Russkie talking points.
Agree with you.
We are constantly fed lies from both sides of EVERY issue.
I’m not gonna be here much longer, so I wish all you youngsters, and those of you *with* youngsters, good luck...you’re gonna need it.
Turns out, from what I've seen, a lot of that is legit too.
I saw the photo of the "Syrian boy" re-using from attack to attack was also a Russian driven hoax: it was one child, from one incident, handed off to 3 rescuers.
I suspect a lot of what we heard about Syria was fake Russian bullshit, which we believed because we expected Muslims to just lie like that.
Thanks for the more up to date info!
You are seriously retarded if you're still going to argue that it wasn't a Russian Buk that shot down the Malaysian airliner.
After years of collecting evidence, a Dutch-led international Joint Investigation Team (JIT) concluded in 2019 that the missile launcher used to hit the civilian airplane came from a Russian army base just across the border.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/prosecutors-start-closing-arguments-dutch-murder-trial-over-downed-mh17-flight-2021-12-20/
That was all bullshit too, and you're just engaging in whataboutism, an old Communist trick to avoid criticism of Russia.
These are people being executed. Not all of them were shot coming out of their homes with the ability to scatter (many were though).
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