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Why the Russian military is bogged down by logistics in Ukraine
The Washington Post ^ | March 30, 2022 | Bonnie Berkowitz and Artur Galocha

Posted on 04/03/2022 1:05:00 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Ambushed convoys and broken tanks. Generals killed close to the front. Expired rations. Frostbite. The Russian military was built for quick and overwhelming firepower, experts say, but its weakness is logistics. And on the roads of Ukraine a month after the first invasion, that weakness is showing.

‘The tyranny of distance’

Many analysts say the Russians assumed they would quickly capture the capital city of Kyiv and force President Volodymyr Zelensky out of power. Whatever the strategy, that outcome did not happen, and Russia has been bedeviled by an inability to keep supplies flowing to troops in a longer ground war.

After weeks of little success except in southeastern Ukraine, despite relentless shelling and thousands of military and civilian casualties, Moscow said during peace negotiations on Tuesday that it would “drastically reduce” military activity in the northern part of the country, near Kyiv and Chernihiv.

After a surprisingly fierce Ukrainian resistance, “we can suspect” that Russians “did not properly organize the logistics necessary for an effective Plan B, which was to have an actual, serious fight in what is the largest country in Europe outside of Russia,” said Michael Kofman, director of Russia studies at CNA, a think tank in Virginia.

The sheer size of Ukraine is a problem.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: biden; logistics; putin; russia; ukraine; war
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To: canuck_conservative

Um No. don’t be silly.

Russia has taken a bloody nose.

But the other poster claiming the they had lost already is jumping the gun.

Russia has been fighting many small dirty wars for a long time.


21 posted on 04/03/2022 2:03:33 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Drew68

+100


22 posted on 04/03/2022 2:05:22 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Fake News..waste of time reading it.


23 posted on 04/03/2022 2:07:18 PM PDT by silent majority rising ( )
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To: tlozo

“The only problem with that theory, is that Russian units that were in that “feint” were mauled and will require some time to refit.”

So they say and some here in the US who are more reliable say not or exaggerated!


24 posted on 04/03/2022 2:07:21 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Levy78

Fake News..waste of time reading it. I refuse to read NYT, Post, or them any longer.


25 posted on 04/03/2022 2:08:16 PM PDT by silent majority rising ( )
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To: silent majority rising

Those who constantly cite these sources should be looked at with skepticism too.


26 posted on 04/03/2022 2:14:35 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: MinorityRepublican

[Paid trolls in Moscow and/or St. Petersburg]


This isn’t a big forum, and a shell of what it was a decade ago, when it was neck and neck with the National Review website. IMHO, no one’s getting paid here.

What we have is a melange of ethnic and religious interests. The Indians support Russia because it’s India’s supposed all-weather friend, whatever that means. Then there’s the white nationalist*, pan-Slavic and pan-Orthodox types, who think Russia, with Putin at its head, will champion their cause and lead it from strength to strength.

Finally, there are the smart alecky types like Tucker Carlson, who think merely being different is a sign of high intelligence and deep sophistication. While it’s not as facile as dying your hair pink, aping the Mohawk do or as psychotic and permanent as cutting off your nether parts, it’s no less mistaken.

* The amusing thing is that stormfronters are conflicted. Some are thrilled that Azov is supposedly a Nazi organization. Others are unhappy that Azov is fighting white Russians (as opposed to the Tartars who are apparently well-represented in the Russian military). Then you have the members who are suspicious of Azov’s Nazi credentials, given the dismissive comments from the ADL:

https://www.adl.org/blog/why-is-putin-calling-the-ukrainian-government-a-bunch-of-nazis


27 posted on 04/03/2022 2:21:15 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Um No. don’t be silly.

Russia has taken a bloody nose.

But the other poster claiming the they had lost already is jumping the gun.

Russia has been fighting many small dirty wars for many many years.

Far to soon to count them out.


28 posted on 04/03/2022 2:24:52 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: canuck_conservative
no no, just wait for the Putin shills to explain that everything is going according to plan

The true Putin shills are the ones buying oil and gas from him and providing military support to the enemy. They are the ones halting domestic energy production here for EVs.

Interesting psy-ops here in the US against patriots who don't trust the lying media.
29 posted on 04/03/2022 2:26:10 PM PDT by Neo_objectivist
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To: tlozo

Vyatka stirilnaya maschinii sovsem slomomales


30 posted on 04/03/2022 2:30:38 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: silent majority rising

Throw the Daily Mail in there, which gets listed here all day too


31 posted on 04/03/2022 2:37:52 PM PDT by Levy78
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To: Zhang Fei
There are plenty of "Nazis" in the Russian affiliated forces in the Donbass.


32 posted on 04/03/2022 2:39:21 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: MinorityRepublican
The Washington Post is trash on every other topic but we're supposed to trust it on this issue.
33 posted on 04/03/2022 2:40:07 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: DarthVader
some here in the US who are more reliable

Got a link for that? Most reports from around the world indicate that the Russian forces near Kyiv suffered serious damage. Losing hundreds of tanks, IFVs, and trucks and thousands of soldiers is not the usual goal of a "feint".

34 posted on 04/03/2022 2:41:44 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ARGLOCKGUY

Not yet.Russia is an Asian power in the culture and the politics evem as Great Russians are European/Slavic genetically. Asians armies continue to attack until they are wiped out or prevail. They indulge in slaughter of the general population in attack and in retreat. will use whatever he sees as required to not lose including nukes. He can only be deterred by a counter threat he cannot contemplate. Mad me do not have even that limit.


35 posted on 04/03/2022 2:43:51 PM PDT by arthurus (- covfefe ,,)
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To: freeandfreezing

[There are plenty of “Nazis” in the Russian affiliated forces in the Donbass.]


Azov was funded by a Jew. It is manned by at least dozens of Jews. I’d be skeptical of any claims of serious anti-Semitism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion
[Despite accusations that the group is antisemitic, some members of the Jewish community in Ukraine support and serve in the Azov Battalion. A 2018 BBC report gave the example of one of its most prominent members, co-founder Nathan Khazin, a leader of the “Jewish hundreds” during the 2013 Euromaidan protests in Kyiv.[105] Jewish-Ukrainian billionaire Igor Kolomoyskyi was the main source of Azov’s funding before it was incorporated into the National Guard. [106][107]

In a 2018 interview, Andriy Biletsky explained that he regards Israel and Japan as role models for the development of Ukraine.[108]]


36 posted on 04/03/2022 2:48:53 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Drew68

AZOV is estimated to be 1500-2000 strong. It is a small unit and not particularly well armed. If the Russians have not been able to wipe them out in five weeks of fighting, that pretty much shows right there just how bad the Russian invasion has fared to present.


37 posted on 04/03/2022 2:57:55 PM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: Always A Marine
those "stalled columns" that many claimed were "retreating" from Kiev now appear to be racing eastward to encircle UKR forces in the Donbass region.

Some of those "stalled columns" aren't racing anywhere.


38 posted on 04/03/2022 3:03:59 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: XRdsRev
AZOV is estimated to be 1500-2000 strong.

According to some of the Putin apologists the entire purpose of the Russian invasion was to get rid of AZOV. So far the Russians have managed to lose somewhere in the range of 4 to 7 soldiers for every AZOV member, and at least one vehicle for every AZOV member. And that's not counting however many Russians the actual AZOV members have managed to kill in Mariupol.

But supposedly the Russians launched a giant feint operation and it was all part of the plan.

39 posted on 04/03/2022 3:08:58 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: tlozo
The only problem with that theory, is that Russian units that were in that "feint" were mauled and will require some time to refit.

Perhaps that's true; perhaps it's not. UKR/NATO propaganda has been so thick -- and questions resisted so vociferously -- that I don't believe anything we're being told. I've been observing and piecing together as many pieces of information as I can find, and strangely finding Russia's frontline reporting to be more forthcoming and rational than the breathless, over-the-top Western accounts that seem to be corrected every few days. The truth is going to come out eventually, so we'll see...

40 posted on 04/03/2022 3:12:01 PM PDT by Always A Marine ("When you strike at a king, you must kill him" - Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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