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Germany willing to become guarantor state for Ukraine peace
Yeni Safak ^

Posted on 03/30/2022 8:11:10 PM PDT by FarCenter

Germany is willing to become a “guarantor state” for a potential peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia, a government spokesman said on Wednesday.

Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy discussed the issue in their recent phone calls, government spokesman Steffen Hebestreit told a news conference in Berlin.

“Germany, like several other countries, is of course ready to act as a security guarantor for Ukraine,” he stressed, but added that the matter could be subject to further deliberations as many details were still not clear.

During peace negotiations in Istanbul on Tuesday, Ukrainian officials signaled readiness to negotiate a “neutral status,” but demanded security guarantees for their country.

Ukrainian negotiator David Arakhamia told reporters that they are seeking an international agreement, where countries including Turkiye, Germany, Canada, Italy, Poland and Israel serve as the guarantor states.

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TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: chechens; chechnya; germany; guarantorukraine; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; riseofthenazis; russia; russianaggression; ukraine; zottherussiantrolls
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To: Cronos; NorseViking

That norse guy is just a troll. But maybe he has some useful military information so I’ll play it by ear.


81 posted on 03/31/2022 3:13:32 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: FarCenter

LOL! Germany can’t even defend itself much less anybody else.


82 posted on 03/31/2022 3:16:26 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Kevmo

Yeo, bullshit, LOL. Nork ICBM is a copy of Yuzhmash design. If they are to nuka America know to thank your Nazi pals in Dnepropetrovsk.
X-31 sales to Iran and China are well-documented as well.


83 posted on 03/31/2022 3:17:05 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: pierrem15

Even if the Germans have finally woken up and are ready to start acting like adults when it comes to their security, it will take YEARS AND YEARS to build competent military forces....if they can find some actual men in Germany who will actually fight.

They’ve been so underfunded for so long, it will take quite a while to build up weapons systems, ammo and trained personnel in large enough numbers for their military to be competent. They have almost nothing right now.


84 posted on 03/31/2022 3:19:16 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

Let them learn and train on the plains of the Ukraine.


85 posted on 03/31/2022 3:31:10 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: NorseViking

Feel free to provide links because... well, you know: I simply do not trust you.


86 posted on 03/31/2022 3:33:30 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: buwaya; FLT-bird; Cronos

{Putin blinks} Putin tells Scholz gas payments can continue in euros: Berlin
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4051093/posts?page=39#39
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FLT-bird to Cronos

They had no choice having idiotically made themselves almost completely dependent on Russia for their energy needs.


87 posted on 03/31/2022 3:39:58 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Kevmo

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7349303


88 posted on 03/31/2022 3:44:42 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Kevmo

Fake news. I have no idea what Scholz claims Putin has told him, but Gazprom board says rubles on their accounts in the Russian bank or no gas. Vatican and Slovenia already paid in rubles, more to follow.


89 posted on 03/31/2022 3:46:39 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

https://www.notgonnaclickonfakelinksgetlost.com


90 posted on 03/31/2022 3:49:06 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Kevmo

Ok, stay in denial:) There is more to it.


91 posted on 03/31/2022 3:50:36 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking; Cronos; FLT-bird

According to Cronos, this is a shell game. The Germans are effectively paying in Rubles by paying to the Gazprom bank in Germany which then converts to Rubles. This is going to take years for them to fix.


92 posted on 03/31/2022 3:51:53 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: NorseViking

The article you cited shows the Ukes selling old CRUISE missiles, not ICBMs.

Ukraine leader confirms missile sales to Iran
President Viktor Yushchenko confirmed Thursday that nuclear-capable cruise missiles were illegally sold to Iran and China under Ukraine’s previous government.
YUSHCHENKO
Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko listens to questions during an interview Thursday in Kiev.Efrem Lukatsky / AP
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March 31, 2005, 12:40 PM PST / Source: NBC News
By Preston Mendenhall and Robert Windrem
President Viktor Yushchenko confirmed Thursday that nuclear-capable cruise missiles were illegally sold to Iran and China under Ukraine’s previous government. In an interview with NBC News, Yushchenko offered the highest-level acknowledgement that the sales, which have alarmed the U.S. intelligence community, indeed took place.

“I confirm this, though I do so with bitterness,” the president said.

Yushchenko spoke on the eve of his first visit to the United States since leading a wave of democratic protests last year that overturned an election won by Yushchenko but rigged by his rivals.

Yushchenko said the X-55 missiles, called AS-15s by NATO, were exported under a forged contract that listed Russia as the destination country. A copy of the contract viewed by NBC News appears to bear necessary clearance stamps for the export of 20 missiles to the Russia, which has denied any role in the sale.

U.S. intelligence officials said that China and Iran each took delivery of six missiles. Ukrainian officials have offered conflicting accounts of the number of rockets delivered.

The missiles were sold without nuclear warheads. They were manufactured in 1987 and poorly maintained, if at all, according to a Ukrainian source familiar with the investigation.

Reverse engineering possible
Still, the U.S. intelligence officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the rockets could propel Iran’s quest for nuclear weapons several steps forward.

Tehran could reverse engineer the missiles, and double the range of its most powerful rocket, the Shahab-3. The X-55s have a range of roughly 2,000 miles. If the Iranians were successful in duplicating the technology, they could target U.S. military bases and assets in the Middle East — and Iran’s archenemy Israel.

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And while the missiles were sold without nuclear warheads, they provide Iran with a model for designing its own.

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“It’s not the physical item itself that is valuable to the Iranians,” one official said. “It’s the updated technology they were after.”

The “integration of the warhead with the missile” is the key “learning exercise” that the Iranians could gain from the acquisition, the same official said.

Japanese officials have protested to Ukraine over the sale of the missiles, saying that they could also enhance rival China’s weapons delivery capability.

Ahead of his trip to the United States, perhaps anticipating what is expected to be a main theme of discussions in Washington, Yushchenko said he had asked his government for a definitive report on the sale of the X-55s.

“A few days ago, I received report that the sale took place though a series of false individuals,” Yushchenko said.

Ukraine’s ‘bandit’ days gone
In an interview in an ornate government mansion near his office in the center of the Ukrainian capital, the president insisted that Ukraine would become a transparent state that fully embraces democracy, in contrast to the “bandit government” of his predecessor Leonid Kuchma.

Meantime, the Ukrainian leader said his health continues to improve from a poisoning that has disfigured his face, the result of an attack he blames on political opponents.

“I feel much better than I did five months ago when it happened,” he said. “And it’s very important that we now know more about what kind of poison it was, how it got into me and most importantly, how to fight it.”


93 posted on 03/31/2022 3:56:18 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Kevmo

More fallacies? I told you that they sold ALCMs and helped build ICBMs.

The “old” missiles are pretty much relevant and a subject to non-proliferation, allowed both China and Iran to improve their technology.

The article isn’t telling the whole story. “Pro-Western” Yuschenko has authorized the deal.


94 posted on 03/31/2022 4:00:48 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: FarCenter

Setting up for Russ-Germ Part 3

Except this time it’s going to look more like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tlbAfex9sc


95 posted on 03/31/2022 4:07:30 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: LouieFisk

If not for a homicidal mental Hitler and near Communist Roosevelt it might have been this way in WW2 as well.

Patton was closer to being correct than people give him credit for.


96 posted on 03/31/2022 4:10:10 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: FarCenter

Just checking in to see how the Putin Puffer cultists are doing...lol


97 posted on 03/31/2022 5:25:20 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: ifinnegan
Hell, the U.S. is still buying $80M worth of Russian oil every day and now Joepedo wants to send Ukraine another $500M in military aid.
We're financing the whole dam war.
98 posted on 03/31/2022 5:56:11 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: skimbell

Citation please......... I see no evidence of present purchase of any Russian oil


99 posted on 03/31/2022 6:00:45 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: FarCenter

A nation that’s trashing its economy with global warming ideology and neutering its military with sexual perversion won’t be able to guarantee anything.


100 posted on 03/31/2022 6:13:05 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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