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Mum on Ukraine’s Security Wish List, Putin Instead Sends a Warlord to Mariupol
New York Sun ^ | 03/30/2022 | Anthony Grant

Posted on 03/30/2022 7:11:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 03/30/2022 7:11:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s hope the UA finds him unawares ...


2 posted on 03/30/2022 7:13:47 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SeekAndFind

Putin has started deporting Ukrainians to Russia from Mariupol. This is why Ukrainians there are fighting to the death. The political Azov monicker at this point looks like something infiltrated by Putin just as Nazis had support of Stalin, because it is a pointless political monicker given the fighting is about avoiding the Putin ethnic cleansing aka remigration he was accusing others of perpetrating.


3 posted on 03/30/2022 7:16:32 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: SeekAndFind

Destroy that Warlord.


4 posted on 03/30/2022 7:24:37 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( Less Lindell CONS, More AZ Style Audits)
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To: JudgemAll

LOL. Mariupol is a captive city, a home of Donbas uprising in 2014. Nobody is fighting to the death except the remnants of Nazi Azov regiment. They used to hold the population hostages, shooting everyone trying to live. Now most of the Azov are dead and people are free to live, most are coming to Russia after the treatment their government subjected them to.


5 posted on 03/30/2022 7:27:02 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

liv=leave.


6 posted on 03/30/2022 7:27:37 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow, no mention of the cluster bomb that the UA used to slice and dice people in downtown Mariupol.

And every internet search blames Russia.Talk about a psy-op and complicit media. I don’t think there is any hope for people to break free from the propaganda being shoveled.


7 posted on 03/30/2022 7:35:34 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: NorseViking

Oh go **** yourself you stooge.

I could have a small shred of respect for you of you joined the Russian army and volunteered to go fight “Ukrainian Nazis”. But you’re a coward who hides behind a keyboard.

Another nekulturny Russian savage, that’s you.

L


8 posted on 03/30/2022 7:38:33 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s pretty clear that the land corridor from Donbas to Crimea is what Russia really wants. The Kiev assault is all about keeping Ukrainian forces pinned in the north while the Russians complete the reduction of Mariupol, and consolidate and fortify their gains in the south.


9 posted on 03/30/2022 7:39:22 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: JudgemAll

Same old story here: Russian banditry. They don’t care Mariupol is destroyed because they just want to steal the land and gas beneath it.


10 posted on 03/30/2022 7:39:25 AM PDT by lodi90
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Nobody is fighting to the death except the remnants of Nazi Azov regiment.

Godwin's Law still applies. Every time I hear someone invoke the word "nazi", I know I'm being played by a propagandist.
11 posted on 03/30/2022 7:40:56 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Antoninus

Google Azov battalion. It is free.


12 posted on 03/30/2022 7:43:48 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Lurker

All the crap you are pumping into the place is going to bite you in the butt one day. Hope you don’t travel by air much.


13 posted on 03/30/2022 7:45:36 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: SeekAndFind
Say hello to my little friend...


14 posted on 03/30/2022 7:46:14 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: NorseViking

“Hope you don’t travel by air much.”

Are you threatening me?

L


15 posted on 03/30/2022 7:49:13 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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Just hinting that MANPADs are more effective against airliners than against military aircraft.


16 posted on 03/30/2022 7:52:28 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: lodi90; JudgemAll

People need to be reminded of the non-binding 1994 Budapest Memorandum, where Russia, America, and the U.K. pledged not to use military force against Ukraine in exchange for it renouncing the nuclear weapons it had obtained from the collapsing Soviet Union.

Russia violated the memorandum by invading Ukraine several times starting in 2014, and other guarantor countries failed to protect Ukraine.

Kyiv’s dispatched to Istanbul, David Arakhamia said that under the guarantees proposed by Ukraine on March 29, guarantor countries must consult each other within three days after the beginning of military aggression or hybrid war. How Putin will respond to all this, if it responds at all, is anybody’s guess.

The big sticking point is Ukraine wants security guarantees that are stronger than NATO’s Article 5, which commits each member state to consider an armed attack against one member state to be an armed attack against them all. Ukraine insist that this should be an agreement on security guarantees signed and ratified by parliaments to avoid repeating the mistake of the Budapest Memorandum, which was practically useless.


17 posted on 03/30/2022 7:53:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: NorseViking

Are you suggesting that you’ll use a missile against a civilian airline here in the US?

Please, don’t be coy. Come out and say it, if you have any balls.

L


18 posted on 03/30/2022 7:55:48 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: NorseViking

No, Azov is political, they do not fight to the death. The ones really fighting to the death are Ukrainians who know they are being deported to Russian misery and will not get the kind of life that the EU infrastructure investment have benefited in places like Estonia.

Azov is political KGB influence operation, a distractor from the reality on the ground.


19 posted on 03/30/2022 7:58:47 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: JudgemAll

Ah, I see, Victoria’s Nuland alter ego is speaking.


20 posted on 03/30/2022 7:59:56 AM PDT by NorseViking
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