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To: lodi90; JudgemAll

People need to be reminded of the non-binding 1994 Budapest Memorandum, where Russia, America, and the U.K. pledged not to use military force against Ukraine in exchange for it renouncing the nuclear weapons it had obtained from the collapsing Soviet Union.

Russia violated the memorandum by invading Ukraine several times starting in 2014, and other guarantor countries failed to protect Ukraine.

Kyiv’s dispatched to Istanbul, David Arakhamia said that under the guarantees proposed by Ukraine on March 29, guarantor countries must consult each other within three days after the beginning of military aggression or hybrid war. How Putin will respond to all this, if it responds at all, is anybody’s guess.

The big sticking point is Ukraine wants security guarantees that are stronger than NATO’s Article 5, which commits each member state to consider an armed attack against one member state to be an armed attack against them all. Ukraine insist that this should be an agreement on security guarantees signed and ratified by parliaments to avoid repeating the mistake of the Budapest Memorandum, which was practically useless.


17 posted on 03/30/2022 7:53:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

People need to be reminded of the non-binding 1994 Budapest Memorandum, where Russia, America, and the U.K. pledged not to use military force against Ukraine in exchange for it renouncing the nuclear weapons it had obtained from the collapsing Soviet Unio


People know. Most just don’t care. Putinists feel the only good Ukrainian is a dead one. Now the world knows the US will not honor its agreements, can not be trusted and plan accordingly. Based on Ukraine’s experience a lot of countries are going to nuke up now. Guaranteed.


25 posted on 03/30/2022 8:09:37 AM PDT by lodi90
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and the ukes violated the Minsk accord killing russians in donbass.. the 1994 version of UKR no longer existed after the 2014 coup..It’s quite a mess... .
https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/06/04/how-and-why-the-u-s-government-perpetrated-the-2014-coup-in-ukraine/


29 posted on 03/30/2022 8:28:55 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: SeekAndFind
where Russia, America, and the U.K. pledged not to use military force against Ukraine in exchange for it renouncing the nuclear weapons it had obtained from the collapsing Soviet Union.

Ukraine never "obtained" any nuclear weapons, nor did it ever control any. All Soviet nuclear weapon systems were legally transferred to Russia, the internationally recognized owner of the Soviet legacy, as part of the formal dissolution of the USSR.

30 posted on 03/30/2022 8:36:01 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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