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Russia calls U.N. meeting alleging U.S. "military biological activities" in Ukraine — U.S. calls it "false flag effort"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-un-meeting-alleging-us-military-biological-activities-in-ukraine ^ | 3-11-2022 | CBS News

Posted on 03/11/2022 6:59:37 AM PST by PK1991

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At the very least, Nuland's surprising revelation reveals, yet again, just how heavily involved the U.S. Government is and for years has been in Ukraine, on the part of Russia's border which U.S. officials and scholars from across the spectrum have spent decades warning is the most sensitive and vulnerable to Moscow. It was Nuland herself, while working for Hillary Clinton and John Kerry's State Department under President Obama, who was heavily involved in what some call the 2014 revolution and others call the “coup” that resulted in a change of government in Ukraine from a Moscow-friendly regime to one far more favorable to the EU and the West. All of this took place as the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid $50,000 per month not to the son of a Ukrainian official but to Joe Biden's son, Hunter: a reflection of who wielded real power inside Ukraine.

Nuland not only worked for both the Obama and Biden State Departments to run Ukraine policy (and, in many ways, Ukraine itself), but she also was Vice President Dick Cheney's deputy national security adviser and then President Bush's Ambassador to NATO. She comes from one of America's most prestigious neocon royal families; her husband, Robert Kagan, was a co-founder of the notorious neocon war-mongering group Project for the New American Century, which advocated regime change in Iraq long before 9/11. It was Kagan, along with liberal icon Bill Kristol, who (along with current editor-in-chief of The Atlantic Jeffrey Goldberg), was most responsible for the lie that Saddam was working hand-in-hand with Al Qaeda, a lie that played a key role in convincing Americans to believe that Saddam was personally involved in the planning of 9/11.

That a neocon like Nuland is admired and empowered regardless of the outcome of elections illustrates how unified and in lockstep the establishment wings of both parties are when it comes to questions of war, militarism and foreign policy. Indeed, Nuland's husband, Robert Kagan, was signaling that neocons would likely support Hillary Clinton for president — doing so in 2014, long before anyone imagined Trump as her opponent — based on the recognition that the Democratic Party was now more hospitable to neocon ideology than the GOP, where Ron Paul and then Trump's neo-isolationism was growing.

You can vote against neocons all you want, but they never go away. The fact that a member of one of the most powerful neocon families in the U.S. has been running Ukraine policy for the U.S. for years — having gone from Dick Cheney to Hillary Clinton and Obama and now to Biden — underscores how little dissent there is in Washington on such questions. It is Nuland's extensive experience in wielding power in Washington that makes her confession yesterday so startling: it is the sort of thing people like her lie about and conceal, not admit. But now that she did admit it, it is crucial that this revelation not be buried and forgotten.

1 posted on 03/11/2022 6:59:37 AM PST by PK1991
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To: PK1991

Why am I inclined to believe Putin rather than the Biden Regime?


2 posted on 03/11/2022 7:03:38 AM PST by Howie66 (Let's Go Brandon!!)
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To: PK1991

What she admitted is that there are biological research facilities, not bioweapons labs.

But those facilities do have samples of dangerous pathogens.


3 posted on 03/11/2022 7:04:10 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Howie66

Maybe the security counsel can impeach Trump too? This stuff is getting like BS squared.


4 posted on 03/11/2022 7:04:46 AM PST by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: PK1991
Call this guy. They're his labs in his legislation.

https://banks.house.gov/

5 posted on 03/11/2022 7:04:51 AM PST by blackdog ("Hey there congress, you's is some real 10-ply.")
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To: Howie66

I’m with you , mate !


6 posted on 03/11/2022 7:05:32 AM PST by sushiman
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To: PK1991

The Deep State is immune. Everything that goes against them is just dismissed as “Russian Agitprop”.


7 posted on 03/11/2022 7:06:19 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Howie66

The dame of one up begins.

The US, is as guilt as anyone and nobody should think that the Rooskies do not have the same types of facilities.

We know for a fact the red bastards in China have them. And who funded them?

The only way to end this crap is to haul every single politician worldwide out and line them up and shoot every single one.


8 posted on 03/11/2022 7:07:49 AM PST by crz
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To: crz

“The GAME of one up begins”


9 posted on 03/11/2022 7:08:29 AM PST by crz
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“ leading the Biden administration to immediately denounce it as a "false flag effort."

These are the same people who lied, under oath, about funding gain of function research in Wuhan.

10 posted on 03/11/2022 7:09:40 AM PST by circlecity (A drama queen till the bitter end.)
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To: DannyTN
What she admitted is that there are biological research facilities, not bioweapons labs.

Nuland was directly responding to Marco Rubio's question:

"Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?"

11 posted on 03/11/2022 7:11:49 AM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: PK1991

Recalling those preemptive intellegence warnings about “false flag” info from Russia where no reason for the warnings were presented. Just seems like the swamp was afraid of something coming out...but then they seem always afraid of that.


12 posted on 03/11/2022 7:12:59 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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Yes, but there was no admission that there were bioweapons. Just samples of dangerous pathogens that they don’t want to fall into Russian hands.


13 posted on 03/11/2022 7:13:45 AM PST by DannyTN
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“Any attempt to claim that Ukraine’s biological facilities are just benign and standard medical labs is negated by Nuland’s explicitly grave concern that “Russian forces, may be seeking to gain control of” those facilities and that the U.S. Government therefore is, right this minute, “working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces.” Russia has its own advanced medical labs. After all, it was one of the first countries to develop a COVID vaccine, one which Lancet, on February 1, 2021, pronounced was “ safe and effective” (even though U.S. officials pressured multiple countries, including Brazil, not to accept any Russian vaccine, while U.S. allies such as Australia refused for a full year to recognize the Russian COVID vaccine for purposes of its vaccine mandate). The only reason to be “quite concerned” about these “biological research facilities” falling into Russian hands is if they contain sophisticated materials that Russian scientists have not yet developed on their own and which could be used for nefarious purposes — i.e., either advanced biological weapons or dual-use “research” that has the potential to be weaponized.

What is in those Ukrainian biological labs that make them so worrisome and dangerous? And has Ukraine, not exactly known for being a great power with advanced biological research, had the assistance of any other countries in developing those dangerous substances? Is American assistance confined to what Nuland described at the hearing — “working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces” — or did the U.S. assistance extend to the construction and development of the “biological research facilities” themselves?”


14 posted on 03/11/2022 7:13:54 AM PST by PK1991 ( )
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To: Howie66
A reasonable question.

Maybe because Biden and his ilk have lied to us and demonized us for years and maybe our trust is a little thin.

Now shut up you racist, white, male and believe us. We are telling the truth now.

15 posted on 03/11/2022 7:15:32 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: DannyTN
Considering Fauci, the Wahan lab, NIH gain of function research, would you trust our government to tell us the truth?
16 posted on 03/11/2022 7:16:57 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: PK1991

It was also previously acknowledged that Ukraine inherited bioweapons from the Soviet Weapon.

There is a picture on the web of Ukraine displaying a rack of Anthrax to a Obama when he was a junior Senator.

Don’t know if those were destroyed.

Anything that happens in Ukraine at this point is the result of the Russian invasion. Whether Russia launches a weapon or bombs a facility. It’s Russia’s fault.


17 posted on 03/11/2022 7:17:44 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: AndyTheBear
Recalling those preemptive intellegence warnings about “false flag” info from Russia where no reason for the warnings were presented. Just seems like the swamp was afraid of something coming out...but then they seem always afraid of that.

Exactamundo....

#DarkToLight

18 posted on 03/11/2022 7:24:23 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: crz

You are probably correct. Most likely every major power has “biolabs” with pathogens which could be quickly converted into weapons. They key thing for them is not to get caught.


19 posted on 03/11/2022 7:25:04 AM PST by packagingguy
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Well it went from : “no they don’t exist” to “well it’s just for medical research” to “they are Soviet labs we are cleaning up”.
Wonder what’s next ?


20 posted on 03/11/2022 7:30:57 AM PST by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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