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Ukraine’s Bio-Lab Security Is Becoming an Issue
National Review ^ | March 9, 2022 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 03/11/2022 6:26:33 AM PST by tlozo

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To: knak
Must’ve missed it but what’s in the bio safety level 1 place?

Your doctors office meets bio safety level 1.

21 posted on 03/11/2022 6:48:38 AM PST by tlozo
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To: skeeter
We don't own them...but we provide technical support. That means we are absolutely supporting them...and I'm sure there is a sh** load of money involved. I haven't read it all...but as soon as I saw "Technical Support"...The Red light went on!!

Posting it right after I post this.

22 posted on 03/11/2022 6:50:48 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Sacajaweau

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/25/tweets/there-are-no-us-run-biolabs-ukraine-contrary-socia/


23 posted on 03/11/2022 6:51:02 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: tlozo

Keep in mind that many pathogens are universal, take anthrax. Any country with industry that uses cows, sheep, etc.; must be studying that disease to have a handle on how to recognize it in the field and how to fight. If you depend upon foreigners to do that for you (e.g., sponsored by UN, EU, etc) you are also of the type that would outlaw your army and depend upon others to defend you in case your crazy neighbor decided to invade = suicidal, don’t live there.
Do not outsource vital industries. Ever.


24 posted on 03/11/2022 6:51:11 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: Sacajaweau

“And Fauci has gone into hiding....”

I saw him yesterday hanging around the animal shelter. I think he was looking for Beagle hounds.


25 posted on 03/11/2022 6:52:17 AM PST by dljordan
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
How about the Chapel Hill-University of North Carolina lab where Fauci started it all

"This procedure applies to equipment located within a BSL-3 laboratory or equipment that affects a BSL-3 laboratory at UNC."

https://facilities.unc.edu/resources/staff/safety/policies/bsl3-notification-procedure/

26 posted on 03/11/2022 6:52:41 AM PST by tlozo
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To: dljordan

That was so disgusting.. I had a couple beagles. Fun dog!!


27 posted on 03/11/2022 6:53:42 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: tlozo

Cui bono.


28 posted on 03/11/2022 6:54:04 AM PST by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: mewzilla

Follow the Money!


29 posted on 03/11/2022 6:54:34 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: circlecity

A good chance to blame Covid on Ukraine?


30 posted on 03/11/2022 6:55:23 AM PST by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: tlozo

I don’t think Obama and the CIA necessarily shared info on at least 26 bio weapons labs that they established and thankfully Putin has taken out. Or at least most of them.


31 posted on 03/11/2022 6:56:00 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: tlozo

Thanks. Had to re read it. I was thinking one had the worse stuff in it.


32 posted on 03/11/2022 6:57:44 AM PST by knak (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing)
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To: tlozo

This is not answering the real issues. Why are we studying these very harmful pathogens in places like Ukraine and China? There are bats in other places. There is anthrax in other places. Why is the US government so secretive about these labs? Why are they worried the Russians will get them? Why is the Pentagon and State Department the ones responding? Doesn’t that make them military labs?

The fact is that we have thousands of Universities. They do research. And yet these labs are all around the world in places that are beyond our sights and laws. Why?

We don’t trust the Russian government. But we also don’t trust the American government. Our news media is supposed to distrust our government. And yet they use the very fact that our government says something as proof that it is true. Are they really a free media anymore? or are they just propagandists? Tucker may not always be right. But he seems to have a point here.


33 posted on 03/11/2022 6:58:43 AM PST by poinq
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To: tlozo

The National Screw is still around?


34 posted on 03/11/2022 7:00:51 AM PST by cp124 (80% of everything is fake)
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BSL-4

Presumes a number of things including that you have an effective regulatory process so that you only work on stuff you are authorized and qualified to work on which requires rule of law. We are discovering we don't have rule of law here in the US. Why a sleezecorruptonefascistaucracy like Ukraine.

35 posted on 03/11/2022 7:04:04 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Sacajaweau

These “fact checking” outfits aren’t even very clever with their lies anymore.


36 posted on 03/11/2022 7:08:26 AM PST by skeeter
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To: tlozo

Now.


37 posted on 03/11/2022 7:58:06 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: tlozo

Really good article that completely shreads the Russian disinformation campaign.


38 posted on 03/11/2022 7:59:27 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: DarthVader
No surprise, the NR is RINO Central at this point.
39 posted on 03/11/2022 8:23:36 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (If we are "watching a movie", this one is straight to DVD.)
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To: z3n
So if we intervene to keep them out of Russian hands, doesn’t it still kindof prove their point. If the “research” isn’t weaponized, then it’s not black-and-white by definition. But if the “research” can be weaponized, then it’s a serious gray area. In other words, what’s so special about this research that it would have to get protected from the Russians?

There is a DoD program called the Biological Threat Reduction Program ("BTRP"), which has been well-known, not hidden, and is public. You can google it to find a bunch of stuff going years back. Here's something from an article from around 2007 discussing how DoD was supporting a facility in Ukraine:

Under the agreement, CTR funds will for the first time flow directly to projects aimed at securing pathogen strains and sensitive biological knowledge within Ukraine. The United States also will work to improve Ukrainian capabilities to detect, diagnose, and treat outbreaks of infectious diseases, as well as determine whether outbreaks are natural or the result of bioterrorism.

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2005-10/threat-reduction-program-extends-reach-ukrainian-biological-facilities

You can google the BTRP and see tons of articles about why it exists, and what it does. It's neither hidden nor secret, and came about in reaction to the 1992 admission by Boris Yeltsin that the Soviet Union, and even Russia, had carried on a massive offensive biological warfare program in direct violation of the 1972 treaty banning same. They had very large stockpiles of the stuff in various places.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-09-15-mn-859-story.html

So....the couple of labs in Ukraine that were set up to address this probably maintained small samples of some of that Soviet/Russian crap for research on how to detect and defend against it. That's what you do, and exactly why the 1972 treaty only banned research into offensive biological warfare - the development of new strains, methods of dispersal etc. It did not ban maintenance of programs designed to defend against it.

And those facilities weren't limited to Ukraine. We have them in the U.S. and elsewhere, but also maintained some in former Soviet Republics because it was safer to study the dangerous crap there rather than transporting it overseas.

So there is the full-circle brilliance of this Russian disinformation campaign. They are trying to eliminate our research into how to defend ourselves against the offensive use of biological weapons, while at the same time still very likely maintaining an offensive biological warfare capability of their own.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/is-russia-violating-the-biological-weapons-convention/

40 posted on 03/11/2022 8:27:07 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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