Posted on 03/08/2022 4:28:59 AM PST by sevinufnine
Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg on Monday pushed a transition to green energy and electric cars as Americans face record high prices at the pump. As gas costs soar and more workers are returning to the office as covid numbers fall, President Biden's administration announced a $3.7B boost for public transportation, including an investment in new fleets of electric buses. 'We are all in the midst of a turning point. We have the technologies to transition to a zero emission fleet,' Harris said during the announcement. 'We can address the climate crisis and grow our economy at the same time. Transit gets riders where they need to be efficiently and affordably with far less pollution. It's even good for drivers of cars because it means less congestion and traffic on our roads. And transit is even better when it's clean transit with modern electric buses that don't pollute at all.'
Neither official mentioned gas prices: AAA reported Sunday that the national average for a gallon of gas hit $4.009 -- the highest since 2008. On Monday, the average price hit $4.10 a gallon, according to GasBuddy. Also a factor is cost. The average transaction price for an electric vehicle is $56K according to Kelley Blue Book, which is about $10K higher than the overall industry average for a new vehicle.
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“… In 2020, a Consumer Reports study said electric vehicle owners spend 60% less on fuel than those who use a combustible engine. This is based on charging 11 times every 15K miles for a car with a range of 200 miles.…”
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Hmmm… 11 X 200 miles = 2,200 miles using formerly taught math skills. Charges that get you 2,200 miles will not get you 15,000 miles. So SOMETHING is wrong with their cost calculations/comparisons.
Exactly! Their arrogance is leading to an ignorance that is going to have devastating impacts on our country for years. They may have book sense- but no common sense. You know, that jewel that says just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should.
I want someone to ask them exactly where are we supposed to charge the electric cars if everyone all of a sudden decides to fork out over $55,000 for one. The nearest charging station to me is over 25 miles away... That and the fact the power grid near me couldn’t support more than one or two people charging their cars...
200,000 miles….not if you take care of it….I have a 2010 Ford Expedition with 326,000 miles….my daily driver…..also have a 2002 Ford F-350 Diesel with 355,000 miles….still runs like a beast
It would be nice f the environmental whackos could offer more than platitudes. Germany went all in on windmills and it has turned into a mess. Germany is paying Denmark to use electricity from the North Sea while southern Germany struggles with getting enough electricity.
I don’t need a job because I’m working on a perpetual-motion machine, and I’m going to be rich.
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The costs of installation for these charging equipment also vary significantly. For example,
The Level 1 charger (5 miles per charging hour) costs between $300 to $600 before labor, which stands at about $1,000 to $1,700.
The Level 2 charger (60 miles per charging hour) goes a bit higher, with the cost increased to between $500 and $700 and labor costing about $1,200 to $2,000.
For Level 3 (249 miles per charging hour), you will need a whopping amount between $20,000 and $50,000 for parts, and labor could cost upwards of $50,000.
It is worth remembering that if the installation process requires major electrical upgrades to your home, it could cost you more.
Teslas have unique and exclusive adaptors for charging their vehicles, that is if you want to use a different charging station. Typically, they come equipped with a Level 1 charger that can be used with the standard 120-volt outlet. However, they also have Level 2 chargers that cost about $500. The installation cost is like that of other chargers, and it stands at a maximum of about $1,100 for a standard unit.
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The number of electric vehicles (EVs) is gradually growing across the globe, and the charging infrastructure for these vehicles continues to expand. By 2019, there were an estimated 7.3 million EV chargers worldwide, of which about 6.5 million units were private, installed by homeowners and those found in workplaces and apartment buildings.
With this new trend, and with electric cars becoming more affordable, it becomes prudent to consider installing a charging station on the premises of your business or at home. This will give you total control over when your car gets to charge. But how much does it cost to install an electric vehicle charger?
Electric Car Charging Station Costs
Several factors influence the cost of installing a charging station at home or in a specific location. The key factors include the output design and the charging type. Where you are looking to install the charging port as well as the person you hire to do the job and the cost of labor will also determine the overall cost.
There are three types of charging stations – Level 1, Level 2, and DC (direct current). The ratings for these three charging levels are as follows:
• Level 1: These are the standard electronic vehicle charging infrastructure with 120-volt single-phase AC of up to 16 amps. They are, however, limited to 12 amps and can deliver up to 1.9-kilowatt (kW) charge rate or about 5 miles of range per hour of charging. Level 1 units can be used with the standard household wall outlets since 120-volt outlets are readily available.
• Level 2: These types require a unit of 240 volts, and they allow for a wide range of charging speeds. With up to 80 amps power rating, they can deliver up to a 19.2-kilowatt charge rate or up to 60 miles of range per hour of charging time. This makes it one of the most suitable charging stations for most electronic vehicles. Level 2 EV chargers require exclusive charging equipment and a dedicated electrical circuit of 20 to 100 amps.
• DC Level 3: These charging stations use a 480-volt unit and can provide up to 80% charge in only 30 minutes. This is equivalent to 249 miles per hour of charging. They are, however, not compatible with all vehicles.
How much does it cost to install an EV charger?The costs of installation for these charging equipment also vary significantly. For example, the Level 1 charger costs between $300 to $600 before labor, which stands at about $1,000 to $1,700. The Level 2 charger goes a bit higher, with the cost increased to between $500 and $700 and labor costing about $1,200 to $2,000. For Level 3, you will need a whopping amount between $20,000 and $50,000 for parts, and labor could cost upwards of $50,000. It is worth remembering that if the installation process requires major electrical upgrades to your home, it could cost you more.
Tesla Charger Installation Costs
Teslas have unique and exclusive adaptors for charging their vehicles, that is if you want to use a different charging station. Typically, they come equipped with a Level 1 charger that can be used with the standard 120-volt outlet. However, they also have Level 2 chargers that cost about $500. The installation cost is like that of other chargers, and it stands at a maximum of about $1,100 for a standard unit.
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At-Home EV Charging Station Installation Costs
If your home already has a 240-volt circuit available, the basic installation will cost you between $250 and $400. However, if you choose to mount a station and run 50-amp dedicated wiring, it will cost you between $400 and $1,700. It costs between $1,500 and $4,500 to mount a new station, install a new service panel, do wiring, and equip it with a 240-volt outlet. The same goes for if there is a need for extensive wiring or if trenching and running conduit around the home are necessary.
The elevated costs are usually a result of electrical work. Electricians charge $40 to $100 an hour, and for the installation of a 240-volt and 50-amp outlet, it costs $300 to $800. A 200-amp panel upgrade costs between $1,800 and $2,500. Wiring, on the other hand, costs up to $8 per foot, and trenching is $4 to $12 per foot.
The U.S. government offers a federal tax credit of up to $1,000 for the purchase and installation of a residential EV charging station. The credit grants 30% off (with a cap of $1,000 total) the purchase and installation cost of the home EV charger.
Garage Modification Costs
This new system needs four additional wires, which include a ground wire, two phases, and a common wire. You may need to shift the electrical fittings in your garage to make the new system fit.
If the floor plans in your garage need some special modifications, expect to part with around $150 per square foot. This will allow the charging station to be mounted on a wall and enable the 25-foot cable to work conveniently.
of course! The folks who believe this green deal drivel are the same people who couldn’t figure a math problem if their lives depended on it.
My Jeep Cherokee has 296K :)
Continuing proof, as if it were needed, that EVs are about saving the environment as much as CoupFlu policy is about protecting public health.
Yes, the time is now.
Kamala does not care if you lose your job, shutter your business, or if you can’t feed your family. The New Green Deal is far more important to her than that.
Can we run tanks, planes, jet fighters on this stuff?
That happened recently in California, causing EV owners to lose their homes AND cars - because the state shut down the power grid to prevent more flare-ups. A real warning to those advocating this; at most, get a hybrid.
Electric vehicles that depend on on-board batteries that are charged from an exterior source have not proved their worth in a competitive, non-subsidized market. If there were an efficient, quick way to provide an energy source that did NOT include a battery array, on board the vehicle, then this push to electrically driven vehicles would make vastly more economic sense.
Which is why hydrogen fuel cells, rather than batteries, should be the technology of choice. We simply do not have enough excess electricity energy generation capability to adequately supply all the demand if all “fossil-fuel” vehicles were somehow converted to electric drive power. And even more stark is the reality that there cannot be enough batteries produced in an economical manner based on the technology and resources available today, because of limitations on the kinds of raw materials available, and the still cumbersome problem of disposal or recycling of the depleted batteries once they can no longer be used for their original purpose.
Science fiction dreams still outstrip our ability to apply these schemes to practical engineering.
Fuel cells, however, have been around a while now and their technological and engineering problems have been studied and worked out, sometimes in financially sound manner that makes fiscal sense, and could be competitive in the market WITHOUT subsidies. Battery technology is still out there in Never-never land. Lots of good schemes, but all with either very real engineering problems, or not economically feasible. Or both.
“Can we run tanks, planes, jet fighters on this stuff?”
Oh what I’d give to be able to ask her that question on a nation TV Q&A, but I’d probably be ushered out and shot.
It is time to rid the country of radical Blacks who are intent on replacing American liberty and freedom with some ginned up derivative of Canadian, UK and Euro socialism.
Kamela is an American enemy
How about “Buy a Tesla, get a FREE jab booster”...?
FU Camela. You are a foreigner. You are not my VP so STFU.
Not saying they don’t want total control but...they’re just caving to their radical leftist base. Cheap oil is a disaster. Expensive oil was always part of the agenda. From Biden to Psaki to Granholm to Buttigieg - it’s obvious they have no intention of doing anything that’ll reduce the price of oil. It’s been their goal long before the Biden admin, he’s just the puppet to make it happen.
I don’t even think Old Kamaltoe knows what green energy is. It’s the end of America that’s what it is!
I just traveled across the Mohave desert on a 760 mile trip where gas was occasionally $5.99 a gallon. A BIG point of
interest - I did not see a single Tesla or other EV on the trip until I entered California.
Hmmn?
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