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'This is a massive crime against humanity': Trump says we 'can't let' the situation in Ukraine continue and slams 'paper tiger' NATO for its inaction
Daily Mail ^ | Published: 01:55 EST, 6 March 2022 | Updated: 04:14 EST, 6 March 2022 | Gina Martinez

Posted on 03/06/2022 1:33:14 AM PST by Zhang Fei

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To: WMarshal

That isnt true. You need to read up on Ukraine history. They were their own nation in middle ages, then fell to the Mongols. They were divided among various european nation states and Russia for hundreds of years, ( by force not by choice) , then established their own country in 1917, then were forcibly conqured by the Bolsheviks and forced to become part of USSR in 1922. So any links to Russia were at the point of a gun.


201 posted on 03/06/2022 6:34:39 PM PST by boxlunch (10th Amendmt: nullification or Texit? PS We're in a hot war: globalists, CCP, media, Dems, RINOs)
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To: SisterK

And Donald Trump said we should all take the vaccine.


202 posted on 03/06/2022 6:38:36 PM PST by crz
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To: boxlunch
"That isnt true. You need to read up on Ukraine history. They were their own nation in middle ages, then fell to the Mongols. They were divided among various european nation states and Russia for hundreds of years, ( by force not by choice) , then established their own country in 1917, then were forcibly conqured by the Bolsheviks and forced to become part of USSR in 1922. So any links to Russia were at the point of a gun."

Sorry but I have to burst your bubble. When it comes to "great power" politics it is "might makes right" and everything else is an illusion. If you want to take the Ukraine from Russia after over 300 years of the Ukraine being part of Russia then we will have to go to war with a the biggest nuclear power on the planet.

History is full of high-sounding platitudes and calls to virtue but, at the end of the day, might makes right.

At the end-of-the-day are both you and yours ready to pay the place in blood to rip Ukraine out of the Russian orbit?

203 posted on 03/06/2022 6:55:42 PM PST by WMarshal ("No war for communism"What a fan of the swap you are)
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To: WMarshal

I honestly dont know.

But if might makes right, when Russia shows up on Americas doorstep in 4 or 5 years after countries have capitulated one after another because of Russias nuclear threats, what will we do? Sign a “treaty” because we are afraid of nuclear war? . If they get away with bluffing and intimidating countries from acting ( and I agree right now it should be Europe stepping up to the plate), why would anyone think Russia would stop after Europe? What world dominating tyrant has ever stopped until forcibly stopped?


204 posted on 03/06/2022 7:08:05 PM PST by boxlunch (10th Amendmt: nullification or Texit? PS We're in a hot war: globalists, CCP, media, Dems, RINOs)
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To: nbenyo

If it is one neighbor killing the neighbor next door, I call the police. I don’t pick a side and then kill one of the neighbors.


205 posted on 03/06/2022 11:52:16 PM PST by vivenne (")
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To: ShawnShawntheLeprecaun

You spelled Leprechaun wrong.


206 posted on 03/07/2022 12:21:28 AM PST by vivenne (")
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To: Jim Noble
Either you believe strong nations can, and ARE RIGHT TO, impose spheres of influence or you don’t.

'Right' in what sense? That the justification is ethical, or simply instrumental?

207 posted on 03/07/2022 1:06:54 AM PST by Winniesboy
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Apparently, they need guns more than they need people.
See link

https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-military-turns-volunteers-away-as-140k-ukrainians-come-home-to-fight-russia


208 posted on 03/07/2022 5:25:47 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: Winniesboy

Both.


209 posted on 03/07/2022 5:34:03 AM PST by Jim Noble (Who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: AZJeep

I have a friend who believes that Putin and Trump are secretly working in collusion in Ukraine to eliminate virus-producing factories that Fauci is running there.

This person is an educated individual (Master’s degree) and rabid Trump supporter who apparently is addicted to wacko podcasts or websites that are pushing this stuff. Probably Russian disinformation sites. She told me on Friday that all will be revealed in the next several weeks.


210 posted on 03/07/2022 6:11:53 AM PST by PA Presbyterian (Never Surrender!)
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To: sumuam

Nobody is saying anything about putting our troops on the ground in Ukraine. The Ukrainians are doing a darn good job of fighting for themselves. Give them the tools and they will finish the job, to quote Churchill about another war.

And if Putin and his thugs remain in power, we’re going to have to fight them when they attack a NATO country. I’d say Poland and Romania are next.


211 posted on 03/07/2022 6:15:39 AM PST by PA Presbyterian (Never Surrender!)
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To: PA Presbyterian

Nobody is saying anything about putting our troops on the ground in Ukraine. The Ukrainians are doing a darn good job of fighting for themselves. Give them the tools and they will finish the job, to quote Churchill about another war.

And if Putin and his thugs remain in power, we’re going to have to fight them when they attack a NATO country. I’d say Poland and Romania are next.


I’m pretty much done at this point. Some of you are stuck in the past with Winston Churchill in mind, totally ignoring this country is going down the toilet and we have domestic
enemies who want to see us genocided, open borders, flooding of the third world through ethnic cleansing, and commies in our government, and never a fair election, again.

In 50 years, this country is going to be a third world dump my kids will be alive in, probably treated like White South Africans living in hoovervilles, but you keep worrying about Baltic States.


212 posted on 03/07/2022 1:54:58 PM PST by sumuam
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