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Steven Pifer, American diplomat: "the mendacity of Russian diplomacy and its contempt for international opinion when the foreign minister says something that can be proven wrong with less than 30 seconds of Google fact-checking?"
1 posted on 03/05/2022 6:28:01 PM PST by Kevmo
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From Conservapedia:

https://www.conservapedia.com/Ukraine#Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances:_1994

Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances


2 posted on 03/05/2022 6:29:52 PM PST by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances)
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To: Kevmo

Also in violation of the 1997 Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation which fixed the principle of strategic partnership, the recognition of the inviolability of existing borders, and respect for territorial integrity and mutual commitment not to use its territory to harm the security of each other.


4 posted on 03/05/2022 6:32:01 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Kevmo

That retarded. Russia has no agreements with this Ukraine. That one was with old Ukraine that ended in 2014.


6 posted on 03/05/2022 6:37:02 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Kevmo

So?


9 posted on 03/05/2022 6:40:18 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kevmo

Kevmo is deep state propagandist.


11 posted on 03/05/2022 6:41:32 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (Welcome to leftist Planet Lab Cage where are YOU are the rat)
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To: Kevmo
The Budapest Memorandum covered quite a bit more than just security guarantees:

3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind;

A decent argument can be made that the West's monkeying around with Ukraine's government (insofar as corrupt influence-peddling goes, especially vis-a-vis America going back to 2013-2014) constituted a violation of Item #3, after which all bets were off.

But this Memorandum is a red herring anyway, because it lacks any means of compliance or enforcement that would be binding upon those who violated the terms therein.

This is the great fiction of "international law": it only has teeth so long as the nations who are the Great Powers agree to abide by them. Once a Great Power (be it America, China, Russia, etc. going back to the empires of old, including the British Empire, the French Empire, the Spanish Empire, and so on) decides that violating an agreement or a 'treaty' (because this memo, lacking ratification by Congress, can hardly be called a treaty) is within their national interest, they will do so (regardless of who else in the world complains).

That is the lesson of history.

18 posted on 03/05/2022 6:49:37 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Kevmo; All; jimrob

What do you think Kevmo? We all know that a “big tent Republican” just basically describes a neocon leftist who wakes up in the morning with the sheets held up by a war-boner.

We are being subjugated at home here in America yet you are trying to lead us into a foreign war where we have no interest. Who pays you?


19 posted on 03/05/2022 6:51:54 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (Welcome to leftist Planet Lab Cage where are YOU are the rat)
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To: Kevmo
Jao Bai-din is violating the U.S. Constitution by not only refusing to protect the U.S. border, he's aligned with other Democrats and they're actively supporting illegal alien invaders.

Who would believe a word about a Ukrainian border that's coming from traitors who actively violate our own?

20 posted on 03/05/2022 6:51:54 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Kevmo

Anyway the nukes were soviet, not Ukrainian. And last, Ukraine was supposed to remain neutral. The deal was abrogated long ago by the Ukes. But in any case, thank god those corrupt idiots don’t have any.


24 posted on 03/05/2022 6:54:59 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Kevmo

Why are they bringing this up? Do they want to give Ukraine thousands of Western warheads to make up for it?


29 posted on 03/05/2022 6:58:16 PM PST by montag813
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To: Kevmo

Was this a treaty ratified by the Senate?


42 posted on 03/05/2022 7:30:18 PM PST by Jim Noble (Who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: Kevmo

What nobody seems to be mentioning here is that this “1994 Budapest Memorandum” is no more binding on the U.S. than the Kyoto or Paris climate change agreements.


46 posted on 03/05/2022 7:37:26 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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To: Kevmo

That was never a document that was passed through Congress.


61 posted on 03/05/2022 8:22:11 PM PST by dforest
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To: Kevmo

Ukraine appeals for foreign volunteers to join fight against Russia

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/27/ukraine-appeals-for-foreign-volunteers-to-join-fight-against-russia

Here’s your chance to make a difference.


74 posted on 03/05/2022 8:45:42 PM PST by McGruff (The first casualty when war comes is truth)
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To: Kevmo

So what, I really don’t care and will not support a war with Russia over this. Ukraine is on it’s on. Let ehe Russians have it.


78 posted on 03/05/2022 8:52:33 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Kevmo

Bttt


114 posted on 03/06/2022 5:52:54 AM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Kevmo

I am glad the UN will now take Putin to court and write a strongly worded letter to him!


116 posted on 03/06/2022 9:12:03 AM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more hash brown patties! )
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To: Kevmo

Just a piece of paper.


117 posted on 03/06/2022 9:14:15 AM PST by brianr10
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