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How cheap Chinese tires might explain Russia's 'stalled' 40-mile-long military convoy in Ukraine
The Week ^ | MARCH 3, 2022 | PETER WEBER

Posted on 03/05/2022 11:35:44 AM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew

How cheap Chinese tires might explain Russia's 'stalled' 40-mile-long military convoy in Ukraine

MARCH 3, 2022

PETER WEBER

As the eighth day of Russia's invasion of Ukraine began Thursday morning, Russian forces appeared to have gained tactical control of their first city, the southern port city of Kherson, but Ukraine is still holding out in Mariupol, Kharkiv, and Chernihiv, despite heavy shelling. Deaths are mounting on both sides.

Big explosions were heard in Kyiv overnight, but according to the British Defense Ministry's Thursday morning update, the main body of the 40-mile-long Russian military convoy advancing on the capital remains nearly 20 miles from the city center, "having been delayed by staunch Ukrainian resistance, mechanical breakdown, and congestion. The column has made little discernible progress in over three days."

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Trent Telenko, a retired Pentagon staff specialist and military history blogger, suggests another big reason may be Russia's tires, as he explained in a long, illustrated Twitter thread based on photos of deserted Russian Pantsir-S1 wheeled gun-missile systems and his own experience as a U.S. Army vehicle auditor. "When you leave military truck tires in one place for months on end," the sidewalls get brittle in the sun and fail like the tires on the Pantsir-SR, he wrote. "No one exercised that vehicle for one year."

Karl Muth, an economist, government adviser, and self-described "tire expert," jumped in, agreeing with Telenko but adding some details about the tires.

Karl T. Muth @KarlMuthReplying to @Noahpinion

Bit of a tire expert here. Those aren't Soviet-era heavy truck radials. Chinese military tires, and I believe specifically the Yellow Sea YS20. This is a tire I first encountered in Somalia and Sudan; it's a bad Chinese copy of the excellent Michelin XZL military tire design.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: biden; putin; rasputitsa; russia; tires; ukraine
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Well there is Vodka for one. They make some software. Telegram Messenger was developed by Russians.

Computer security sofware Kaspersky is also Russian. It was viewed as a fine product until it is suspected to have ties to Russian government and subsequently banned by U.S. and many media outlets.

61 posted on 03/05/2022 12:56:22 PM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew
You are the one who changed subject from tire to iphone, not me.

You brought in fighter jets. So I brought in the amazing Chinese hypersonic missiles. The you go crying to mama. Figures.

By the way, snow melted now. It is muddy season,

Temperature in Kyiv right now is 0 degrees C, feeling like -3 and “snow has melted” huh? What planet you living on?

62 posted on 03/05/2022 12:58:38 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
Why jump from tire to iphone? You should have sticked to tire issue. I would have stopped if you did.
63 posted on 03/05/2022 1:00:43 PM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew
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To: SmokingJoe

They’re the same Chinese who produced the hazardous drywall that was exported to the U.S. from 2001-2009. It was found to be defective, containing high levels of the sulfurous gases – carbon disulfide, carbonyl sulfide, and hydrogen sulfide. These emissions, which have the odor of rotten eggs, worsen as temperature and humidity rise. This drywall was imported, and used in 20 U.S. States and created an environmental and health hazard. It was used mostly in Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama after Hurricane Katrina in 2005.


64 posted on 03/05/2022 1:03:36 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew
Because you were blathering on about the quality of products made in China. Best way to counter that is mention the super high quality iphones which are made in China by Chinese.
65 posted on 03/05/2022 1:03:40 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew

I’m referring more on a grand Industrial scale.

Cars, Robotics, Airplanes, Logistics building etc.

Mexico at least makes concrete on a worldwide scale.

I wonder if Kaspersky is going to be banned from sale in Western nations?


66 posted on 03/05/2022 1:04:52 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: flamberge
I asked some people who have studied Russian military doctrine. Their answer is that these Russians are following their standard battle doctrine. They are standing off beyond potential artillery range from the defenders in the city and have positioned forward artillery of the own to pound the defenders while they prepare supplies and troops for the final assault.

THANK YOU! Despite the propaganda spread by the lockstep media and its (think tank funded) celebrity experts, no military observer actually believes the Russian columns are stalled, broken down, or out of fuel. These are orderly formations of combat, combat support, and combat service support units, forward positioned behind the battle lines -- evidence that Russia has yet to commit its full weight to the fight while Ukraine's negotiating positions are steadily crumbling.

A notable departure from Russia's standard doctrine has been its relatively sparing use of artillery so far. The same has been true of its limited use of air strikes - which have been announced in advance with calls for nearby civilians to move away from danger. These doctrinal departures further indicate that Moscow is "holding back" to avoid civilian casualties. Just my observations...

67 posted on 03/05/2022 1:07:48 PM PST by Always A Marine ("When you strike at a king, you must kill him" - Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: mass55th
The Chinese have made some products that are not so great, like most other countries, especially in the past.
But they make great products too.
Most of our HDTVs, laptops smart phones etc share made in China.
68 posted on 03/05/2022 1:07:56 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

I guess the upside is that they kill more of their own people each year with their shoddy production practices, than they do Americans.


69 posted on 03/05/2022 1:12:05 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: SmokingJoe

Barely around freezing temperature. If you see some pictures from Ukraine now, you see a lot of mud.

You seemed to have changed while I have been away from FR. For some reason this Russia issue is driving everybody crazy.


70 posted on 03/05/2022 1:14:41 PM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew

This is stupid.

The convoy isn’t “stalled”. It’s the supply chain for their armed forces.


71 posted on 03/05/2022 1:22:23 PM PST by oblomov
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To: SmokingJoe
Starts with Chinese tire.

Somehow you counters with iphone.

All I am saying is that Chinese product tend to have quality problem and it runs at many level of product.

You almost sounds like an angry Chinese.

72 posted on 03/05/2022 1:23:31 PM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew
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To: oblomov
Yeah, but it should be moving at reasonable speed. They haven't seen it for a few days.
73 posted on 03/05/2022 1:26:44 PM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew

I have Hankook tires on my Nissan. They sound Chinese. Hope they are better then the ones in the convoy.


74 posted on 03/05/2022 1:32:10 PM PST by vespa300
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To: vespa300

That’s a S. Korean tire.


75 posted on 03/05/2022 1:37:36 PM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew

76 posted on 03/05/2022 1:48:30 PM PST by null and void (No, that’s wrong! You’ve gone out of sequence! “Nureek,” “rotut,” “hanunga!”)
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew

A few years ago my Harley mechanic tried me to try some Hankook tires. I told him if he put ANYTHING Korean on my Harley it better be 19 and leave a wet spot on the seat.


77 posted on 03/05/2022 2:28:00 PM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: refermech

Guerilla warfare.


78 posted on 03/05/2022 3:53:51 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy saints surrounded.)
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew

Oh, I feel better. thanks!


79 posted on 03/05/2022 3:58:16 PM PST by vespa300
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew

China bomb tires are a well-known phenomenon in the RV world. That’s why I immediately replace my travel trailer tires with Goodyear Endurance tires that are made in the USA. Looks like the Russian military is learning that lesson the hard way.


80 posted on 03/05/2022 4:06:43 PM PST by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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