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Social Security's Day of Reckoning Could Arrive Soon. Are You Ready?
The Motley Fool ^ | Mar 2, 2022 | Maurie Backman

Posted on 03/05/2022 4:16:53 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

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To: where's_the_Outrage?

great picture! and so true.


61 posted on 03/05/2022 6:46:39 AM PST by ronniesgal (if more folks would mind their own business the world would be a better place.)
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To: BobL

the expansion of disability- that goes for handicapped parking stickers too.
You are not handicapped just because you are too fat to walk.


62 posted on 03/05/2022 6:48:57 AM PST by ronniesgal (if more folks would mind their own business the world would be a better place.)
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To: Keyhopper

“Guess we should confiscate the government retirement fund and put it into social security. The government employees can get their retirement from that.”

Starting with congress.


63 posted on 03/05/2022 6:50:34 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The “Trust Fund” - we can “Trust” the government to tax the hell out of our grandchildren.


64 posted on 03/05/2022 6:55:00 AM PST by AdSimp
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To: brianl703

Direct deposits helped to stop the STOLEN checks at the beginning of every month from the mailboxes.


65 posted on 03/05/2022 7:00:37 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Soul of the South

#6 is happening now.


66 posted on 03/05/2022 7:08:14 AM PST by kalee
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Absolutely infuriating!

I live in a neighborhood with a lot of Eastern Europeans - all of the old folks get social security - not a one of them paid into it since they came here as elderly. One told me it was $800/month.

One neighbor told me how grateful he was to the U.S. b/c his elderly parents were able to receive medical care immediately upon arrival - all free, of course.


67 posted on 03/05/2022 7:20:55 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Because welfare mamas show up with news crews and scream “someone’s got to pay for my kids”. It happened in GA few years ago, due to a computer glitch funds weren’t added to cards and the mamas went berserk. The next morning they were waiting on the doorstep with media before the office even opened.
I tried to find the video on YouTube but couldn’t. It used to be on there.


68 posted on 03/05/2022 7:21:14 AM PST by kalee
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Anyone who planned or plans on SS being the primary source of retirement income is either stupid or ignorant. When it was created, it was meant to provide only bare subsistence. That is true today as well.

The math needed to illustrate this is 8th grade at the latest. There is no excuse for not including income, taxes and savings in high school curriculum. I spent 35 years teaching college freshmen to use a spreadsheet and the first significant topics were retirement savings and mortgage interest.

Every year, the students were stunned by the actual cost of a 30 year mortgage and the poverty they would experience if they depended on SS for retirement income. Within the first two weeks, they all understood the value of saving whatever they could starting with their first job.

Albert Einstein once described compound interest as the “eighth wonder of the world.” Every HS graduate should know that. (Note: I understand that stupid people will never learn math. However, we can train the ignorant.)


69 posted on 03/05/2022 7:30:14 AM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; All

> “government is giving all our Social Security funds to .....”

Almost correct. Congress has authorized “borrowing” from the Social Security Trust Fund to meet expenditures with deficit spending. In essence, Social Security and Medicare tax withholding payments are transfer payments to Treasury.

Ponzi scheme.

The Social Security Trust Fund is one huge IOW to its beneficiaries.

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It’s going to be interesting.

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70 posted on 03/05/2022 7:33:06 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I’ve paid in for 41 years and will start collecting in about 4. Oh I’ll get mine or the pitchforks will come out.


71 posted on 03/05/2022 7:50:00 AM PST by krug
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To: joma89

“Millions of useful idiots who put their trust in criminal government instead of themselves are about to suffer. No sympathies.”

Are you telling me I had a choice not to have the government suck “social security” money out of my paychecks my entire life?


72 posted on 03/05/2022 8:13:44 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder. )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Back in the FDR administration when there were hearings on the SS Act. The financial industry warned the Ivy League geniuses of the FDR cabal that this would eventually happen. The “evil bankers etc” offered to work with the “Geniuses” to set up a financially sound system. The FDR geniuses who all likely flunked math said no!
73 posted on 03/05/2022 8:27:17 AM PST by Reily
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To: Lurkinanloomin
True!
However the system was financially unsound from the beginning! It's essentially a Ponzi scheme. A Ponzi scheme works as long as you have a large pool paying in compared to what's going out.

https://www.mercatus.org/publications/social-security/how-many-workers-pay-benefits-each-social-security-retiree#:~:text=By%202034%2C%20the%20best-case%20scenario%20is%202.3%20workers,Security%20helps%20to%20explain%20its%20current%20fiscal%20dilemma.

From the SSA's own web site:

https://www.ssa.gov/history/ratios.html

Highlights from the SSA site

In 1940 154.4 workers supporting 1 retiree.

In 2013 2.8 workers supporting 1 retiree.

Note for those of you who think the more is yours. It isn't! There have been at least two USSC cases (maybe more!) that definitely establishes that you have NO OWNERSHIP of the money you paid in. If you did it would be an asset and part of your estate. You could pass it to your heirs! You can't !

74 posted on 03/05/2022 8:40:27 AM PST by Reily
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To: Nik Naym

The millions of idiots I refer to are useful idiot democrat party voters that forced social security on to the rest of us.


75 posted on 03/05/2022 9:05:57 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: lightman

The average SS check is around $1700 a month. Multiply that by the seniors deaths and you will get a pile of money that the Social Security trust fund.... has saved! There is your answer!


76 posted on 03/05/2022 9:39:08 AM PST by ktw (72 ID, Finally Retired after 25 years!)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

So was I.


77 posted on 03/05/2022 11:25:40 AM PST by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.)
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To: Poser

Arrogant much?


78 posted on 03/05/2022 12:21:48 PM PST by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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To: Laslo Fripp

Ignorant much?


79 posted on 03/05/2022 12:36:27 PM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: ktw

The Social Security “trust fund” is here:

https://moneymorning.com/2017/03/31/the-social-security-trust-fund-is-just-a-stack-of-ious-in-a-west-virginia-filing-cabinet/

At the end of the day it cannot be “solvent” or “insolvent” any more than Unicorns can be animals or minerals.

The government can print as much money as they want to pay whatever they want.

All the rest is empty rhetoric.


80 posted on 03/05/2022 12:41:09 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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