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Russia’s chaotic and confusing invasion of Ukraine is baffling military analysts
CNBC ^ | 04-MAR-2022 | Holly Ellyatt

Posted on 03/04/2022 5:17:56 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas

One week into Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and military analysts are united on one front, at least: Russia’s invasion has not gone entirely to plan, looking disorganized, uncoordinated and sluggish to observers.

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“It’s going to be worse than what the Russians had in Afghanistan, that’s what the Ukrainians are going to do,” he added, alluding to the then Soviet Union’s drawn-out, bloody, costly and unpopular invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 that lasted 10 years and led to the loss of around 15,000 Soviet soldiers.

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Russia has not been able to swiftly achieve its military objectives, he said, because “the Russians are not nearly as well trained as they think they are or as we thought they were, they’re not nearly as well equipped,” he said.

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To: Pete Dovgan

I’ve been watching You Tube videos produced by foreign sources. They have a much better grasp of the reality backed up by presented facts than I have seen here.

I know, I know......... You tube. But I also know that practically all American news is propaganda. News “Made in America” is simply not beleivable


21 posted on 03/04/2022 5:40:41 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: 2banana
Does this “analysts” even know that one third to one half of the population in the Ukraine is Russian or favors Russia?

Fake news! The Russkies aren't even getting help in the East from all those alleged "Pro-Russian" Ukrainians, and even before the war, large majorities in the East opposed being made part of Russia. As the Russians are now bombing residential areas, killing 40 civilians just last night, how Pro-Russian could they be now?

And as for the Ukrainians stuck in the DNR/LNR, anecdote after anecdote from contacts they have made with the outside world generally say things like, "we live in an open air gulag where we will be arrested if they find out we're talking to you."

Russia proper is quickly doing that too, now threatening to hand out 15 year sentences to people for just describing the invasion as an "invasion" or a "war", or sharing pictures of war footage! You've been eating up some Russian propaganda.

22 posted on 03/04/2022 5:42:13 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: LouieFisk

Some young pundits certainly don’t understand a thing, but several retired generals have said exactly the same thing.

I watched Gen. McCaffrey explain how Russia has seriously messed up, is in disarray and much weaker than we thought.

He knows a thing or two having commanded the 24th Infantry Division in Desert Storm and executing the lauded Left Hook attack.


23 posted on 03/04/2022 5:42:18 AM PST by Krosan
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To: SpeedyInTexas
Russia’s chaotic and confusing invasion of Ukraine is baffling military analysts

Its muddy season in Ukraine's north.

Russian corruption and lack of basic maintenance. Example: Analyst reviewed pictures of abandoned Russian vehicles, which showed deflated tires. Looks like Russians were too corrupt to regularly move the vehicles to prevent brittle/rotten tires.

Abandoned Russian Pantsir-S1 , whose rear tire fell apart when Ukrainians tried to move it


24 posted on 03/04/2022 5:42:18 AM PST by tlozo
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To: SpeedyInTexas
Of course it's baffling, as they are analyzing deep state news reports. Russia is taking down a center of the DS - Ukraine. All power to them. Russia themselves are exiting SWIFT and going to a gold standard. Look forward to that happening here in the US.


25 posted on 03/04/2022 5:42:22 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

It will be much easier to control a developed urban society, than a country of isolated mountain tribesmen.

Westerners are far more pampered, far easier to find and control.


26 posted on 03/04/2022 5:43:17 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: LouieFisk
“baffling military analysts” .....as viewed through a 20th century lens.
I must admit I didn't really see the strategy in the first few days. The Propaganda, and lies being feed here, and the MSM where disturbing, and childish to say the least.
20th century warfare would not be good optics. Massive civilian casualties, and infrastructure destruction.
There is no hurry, Its late winter, so cut off the power. Control the airspace. Siege the larger cites.
Once the capitol is taken the Government leaves, or surrenders. I say 2 months. A Non Military analysts opinion. :)
27 posted on 03/04/2022 5:43:33 AM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

“Analysts” are always stuck fighting the last generations wars.

Russia is in no hurry, they will grind this out for weeks, months, years to get everything they want. Ground troops are expendable, civilians mean nothing to them, they will slowly crush all resistance.

Russia most certainly doesnt care what its own citizens who want access to the truth, think, those it will more brutally crush by the throat.


28 posted on 03/04/2022 5:43:34 AM PST by baclava
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To: Renfrew

Where did you get whatever the non-numbers that you’re not citing?
I mean, if the mighty Ukrainian forces have chased a beaten and broken Soviet (USSR been outta business for 30 years, by the way) military halfway to Moscow, I’m thinkin’ you got a scoop there.


29 posted on 03/04/2022 5:44:15 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: Sirius Lee

Think experts and think fog


30 posted on 03/04/2022 5:44:22 AM PST by no-to-illegals ( The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them)
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To: Williams

“...than a country of isolated mountain tribesmen.”

You mean like Afghanistan?


31 posted on 03/04/2022 5:46:52 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: SpeedyInTexas

What military analysts?? Do they mean the liberals that have a distorted view of reality and cannot understand it?


32 posted on 03/04/2022 5:47:17 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: tlozo

Even going back to soviet times, didn’t that Mig 25 that the defecting pilot deliver to the U.S. have rust all through it?


33 posted on 03/04/2022 5:47:23 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: no-to-illegals

The Ukraine is not Afghanistan. Russia is taking over Ukraine, perhaps not by Millie’s playbook, but they are.


34 posted on 03/04/2022 5:48:44 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: SpeedyInTexas

CNBS......fair and balanced....oh and truthful.


35 posted on 03/04/2022 5:49:01 AM PST by xenia ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: LouieFisk

“Where did you get whatever the non-numbers that you’re not citing?”

The Russian defense ministry:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/596545-russia-says-498-of-its-soldiers-have-died-in-ukraine


36 posted on 03/04/2022 5:49:35 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: Terry L Smith
I do not see this as a ‘military’ action. I do not see this as a ‘political’ reprisal. This is purely a ‘tribal’ action. For a length of history, the Ukraine belonged to Russia.

Lol, 141 countries in the UN General Assembly, vote overwhelmingly to condemn Russia, and demand that Moscow immediately withdraw its forces. Five countries voted against: Russia, Syria, North Korea, Belarus and Eritrea.

37 posted on 03/04/2022 5:50:05 AM PST by tlozo
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To: baclava

“Russia is in no hurry”

The problem is they are. If the war goes into the spring Europe no longer needs Russian gas for heating.

So far sanctions have only been on 30% of Russia’s exports. If energy exports are shut down the devastation to the Russian economy will be an order of magnitude larger.

Putin needs to end this by Apr 1st at the latest.


38 posted on 03/04/2022 5:51:59 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: LouieFisk

Amazing all the disinformation and lies being spread here about Russia’s motivation to invade Ukraine. Fortunately, I received a vaccine in 1971 that makes me immune to all of this disinformation. The vaxx, you ask? My sophomore year of high school world history book. Immunize yourself, if needed.


39 posted on 03/04/2022 5:52:25 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: MotorCityBuck

And if you can imagine how the US populace will be POed when as this folly leads to spiraling inflation and hardship, can imagine how the Ukraines won’t be exactly overjoyed.

Being that the current government was installed by a coup - as in common in that part of the globe - you can expect they’ll be looking for it to be replace.

Most probably just want to grow their potatoes, raise a family and not get killed in the latest regional urination competitions. One puppet govt is as good as another. Usually very few people think war is as great as the planners and profiteers do.


40 posted on 03/04/2022 5:52:32 AM PST by LouieFisk
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