Posted on 03/03/2022 4:42:59 AM PST by hardspunned
MOSCOW, March 3. /TASS/. The Russian Armed Forces have hit 1,612 targets since the start of a special military operation in Ukraine, Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
"As many as 1,612 targets have been hit since the start of the operation, including 62 command posts and communications centers, 39 S-300, Buk M-1 and Osa missile systems and 52 radar stations," he specified.
According to him, 49 aircraft were destroyed on the ground and another 13 in the air. A total of 606 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 67 multiple rocket launchers, 227 field artillery pieces and mortars, 405 military motor vehicles and 53 unmanned aerial vehicles were also destroyed.
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You are too eaten up with DC/Ukrainian disinformation. In your case, I give up. Have a nice day. One last thing, where are the internet/satellite images of masses of dead Russian and Chechen soldiers, the destroyed Russian tank brigades, the hundreds of dead and dying children in Ukrainian hospitals? You cannot hide a destroyed sixty tank column from our satellites. Why is Biden suppressing these images?
Oh excuse me, I would have thought you had realized what actually was happening. No wonder you’re taking this round of DC DS/Democrat/NWO/Media disinformation hook, line and sinker. Sorry, gave you too much credit.
What are the issues at play?
Same here
I am not disputing that a bunch of stories being put out by the Ukrainians are propaganda, and not believable. That's pretty normal in most wars, and people should be taking all those claims with several grains of salt.
But that is a completely different issue from the accurate information available to the Ukrainian commanders regarding actual Russian troop movements. They know the difference between what is truth and what is propaganda even if the public does not.
The battlefield propaganda regarding the exact number of Russian troops killed, the Ghost of Kiev, etc, have nothing to do with any of that.
Sure is a lot of detail there. 1000 total Nazis in Ukraine? You’re kidding, right? I can find you 1000 virulently anti Russian Nazis in Washington DC, let alone Ukraine. After Iraq/Afghanistan, president Biden, Covid, BLM, etc. when do you begin to question what you’re being fed? You are right about one thing, they deserve each other. Why are you insisting on a potential nuclear confrontation, Hell It AREADY Is a Nuclear Confrontation, putting my grandchildren at risk over what? The US DS/Democrat steal as you go bank?
I think this propaganda shows the weakness of Russian military.
It is getting hammered by US made Stingers and Javelins.
The occupation will be far worse for the Russians.
These hand held weapons have made defeating insurgents impossible.
Lavrov outlined the negotiating position of the Russian Federation yesterday. These negotiating points are the issues driving the Russians. They ARE legitimate. Russia will not occupy Ukraine. They want buffer states between them and the most virulently anti Russian alliance since Hitler, wielding a military that makes Hitler’s look like a piker. They will leave with a Russian leaning buffer state like Belarus. It most definitely will not continue being the US Deep State/Democrat vassal state it is has been for a decade. I challenge you to find this Russian negotiating stance at cease fire talks anywhere reported. It is totally squelched because it runs 180 degrees opposite the monolithic western narrative. As a matter of fact, it blows the narrative to hell,
- The task of the operation in Ukraine is to identify specific types of strike weapons that will never be deployed there
- After the end of the conflict, Ukrainians themselves must decide how to live on
- Russia is ready to discuss the issue of security guarantees during the second round of negotiations with Ukraine
- Ukraine has the technical potential to create nuclear weapons, the Russian Federation will not allow it, Russia is 100% safe in the current situation
- The parameters of demilitarization of Ukraine have yet to be agreed
- Moscow will not discuss the topic of Crimea, this topic is closed
- The purpose of the ongoing operation of the Russian Federation in Ukraine is to protect people, primarily in the Donbass
- Russias position in negotiations with Ukraine: Crimea is part of the Russian Federation, recognition of the DPR and LPR within administrative borders, demilitarization, which should have certain parameters
- Ukraine must undergo the denazification procedure, using post ww2 Germany as an example
- During the special operation, we are doing everything to prevent any serious civilian casualties
- Russia cannot stand by as the participants of torchlight processions marching under fascist, neo-Nazi banners in modern Europe
- Russia offers Ukraine an agreement that will ensure the legitimate rights of all the peoples of this country
The ball is court Zelenskyy’s, he’d best not muff it.
Quite a believer in all things Russian aren’t you? Believe the Russians, but not the Ukrainians, you seem to say.
And worse, the Russians are better stewards of civilian populations when invading then the US.
They are better because their long range weapons are mostly unguided, incurring collateral damage, while US weapons are designed to minimize collateral damage.
Any Russian “Shock and Awe” will be mostly, if not entirely targeted at civilians, since they are out of precision weapons.
You are not a fool, just another hardcore Putanista propagandist.
Its a military operation to remove the neo Nazi gesarian mafia from their stranglehold on the Ukraine. So far Russia has been pretty restrained. ferreting out these cabal monsters is going to be a pain in the butt. They infest every major city with their money laundering, child trafficking and drug and gun running.
The Biden regime must be sobbing in their hankies watching Putin shut off a major income stream.
Bruce,
You prove my point.
Putin being cited as crazy shuts the intelligent conversation down.
At this point in time, I don’t think you claim that Russia is gobbling up all of Ukraine. East of the Dneiper...yes, they obvious want friendly/puppets installed to replace the puppets we installed violently in 2014.
I am not sure the whole cost benefit analysis is out of whack. I don’t think Russia is losing on their initial goals. There has been a war going on east of the Dneiper since 2014 with c15,000 kia (which means what 10 to 20 times as many wounded?).
I do think our propaganda and reactions might push Russia into doing more than originally planned....and seems quite poorly thought out.
I am curious, can you name the countries in the world that suffered aerial bombardments along with Ukraine — In the last week or so? Were those actions moral, justified, or crazy?
read my post again and look carefully at the words I used
It doesnt matter whether true or not.
Putin is losing the propaganda war
Where do you get such an idea? Are Nazis employing Hunter Biden and his now in prison fellow board member, there in Ukraine?
You are strumming the Nazi theme like liberals here do on the virtually nonexistent Nazis that are a US “national” threat.
They really mean “us,” and we're not a Nazi contingent.
Putin is losing the propaganda war in the West the same way Trump lost the propaganda war waged against him. It is impossible to win a propaganda war when you are being held incommunicado by every “news” and NWO social media outlet in “the Free World”. We’ve never seen the truth or propaganda the Russians are releasing about this incursion. Excuse me for misunderstanding the point you were making.
I dont see a way out for Putin which is a scary thing.
I have seen claims that Ukraine is violating the Geneva convention with all of this parading around of dead and captured soldiers...but it is effective in their propaganda war.
Are you aware of the intensive 75 year long, cradle to grave, all encompassing propaganda campaign about the Great Patriotic War in Russia? Remember the price paid the last time the Russians had this type of threat directly on their border? I guarantee you the average Russian citizen hasn’t forgotten. Massed NATO armored formations on their border fits the very real threat (this time) they’ve been warned about for 70 years. This incursion jives with everything the Russians have been told. I’m hesitant to guess what the Russian average citizen believes about this but I know you and I are being buried in an disinformation tsunami. This is NOW a nuclear confrontation between NATO and Russia. Why are we anxious to risk such a horrific miscalculation based on the laughable lies being spread by the usual DS/NWO media suspects? There is no way out for Putin or us but a negotiated settlement. The Russians are as adamant about this as we were over Cuban nukes. Sorry for being so long winded.
Russki trolls have a redeeming feature: They are so moronic and / or obvious that like Putin pushing Ukraine, Finland, etc., toward NATO, I really believe they push 10 people to Ukraine’s side for every 1 they bring to their side. Maybe Putin will “reward” them appropriately, KGB style.
Nope. Even more so, Russia and it’s trolls are doing it to themselves. The trolls are all over the Internet (where most people get their info these days), but their clumsy approach can’t appeal to more than 10% of the US population (if that).
Putin? All one has to do is listen to him over a little time (the vids are all on You Tube) and have the slightest knowledge going back to the origins of WW1.
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