Posted on 02/20/2022 9:37:54 PM PST by george76
I can see electric vehicles being refused as cargo by the financial risk worldwide.
I also can see car ferries prohibiting electric vehicle transport throughout the world.
The electric vehicle option sill soon be a pipe dream at large scale of ownership.
Dangerous to transport. Dangerous to recharge in a home garage or building garage. Battery fires almost impossible to extinguish. Toxic fumes released from battery fires. Too demanding upon an already stressed electric grid. Huge battery replacement cost on used EV’s. Very limited range between recharges.
TOO MANY NEGATIVES.
I am not an EV fan but given the number of these things out there, why are there not a bunch of garage Hindenbergs happening every night now??
IMO these things are going to burn down the electric grids. The government is pushing that to happen.
Plus what about when the batteries get old, after years of bad charging....
That seems like a logical conclusion.
Rapid quenching of the ships overheated hull by using cryogenic liquid to extinguish the fire? The ship’s hull would likely get so brittle the vessel might break apart & sink. Might be worth the risk, but...
And make sure you have a REALLY LONG charging cable so if the car goes up, it's nowhere near your house.
What if you sink the ship?
Can’t do that. If you do that, the fire wins!
“Lithium-ion batteries in the electric vehicles on board are “keeping the fire alive”, Captain Cabeças said, adding that specialist equipment to extinguish it was on the way.”
The only way to fight a Lithium fire is with dousing it with massive amounts of water. This cools the non-combusted cells and keeps them from lighting up. Nothing else works - you can’t starve them of Oxygen, because they have their own Oxygen in their cells, ready to burn, when the temperature is high enough.
Of course there’s no shortage of water in the Atlantic, but it’s salt water, so there won’t be much left of the vehicles. It may be possible to save the ship, or minimize the damage to the ship by extinguishing the fire with salt water, but the cars will be history.
Useta be that a Class D fires were smothered with sand and graphite. That would entomb the metal in silicon carbide.
I recently watched an episode of The Grand Tour on Prime. 4-5 years ago Richard Hammond destroyed an electric super car.
Even though it was crashed in a field and fully accessible, it took four days to put out the fire.
Yes, but in so doing, it keep the oxygen away. It is oxygen that ultimately makes it go. No oxygen, no fire.
In fact, that is probably the best way to extinguish...send an LNG tanker loaded with LN2, hook it up below the fire line, and flood the entire ship interior with nitrogen gas.
Because, in spite of the rampant alarmism on this thread (and board), the probability of it happening are very low...not zero, of course, but statistically very low.
And coming solid-state batteries will not have the problem.
“Do NOT charge your car in your garage overnight while everyone is asleep. Actually, charge it outside only.”
…which defeats the purpose of having a garage or home charger.
A wood fire must be far worse for the environment than a battery fire. At least it would so appear from the volume of EPA regulations and government experts pretty much know everything.
Now that is an environmental “disaster”, of course it wont be talked about much.
“And coming solid-state batteries will not have the problem. “
1. They aren’t available yet.
2. The chances if them being retrofittable to present vehicles is somewhere between none and zero,
Easy. Buy a few hundred acres of remote land and dump them there. Right above some community’s water table. Like everything else, let our grandchildren worry about it.
“I also can see car ferries prohibiting electric vehicle transport throughout the world.”
That is SCARY...being on a ferry with an EV lighting up.
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