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West megadrought worsens to driest in at least 1,200 years
The Associated Press ^ | February 15, 2022 | By SETH BORENSTEIN (D-AP)

Posted on 02/15/2022 6:32:44 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

The American West’s megadrought deepened so much last year that it is now the driest in at least 1,200 years and is a worst-case climate change scenario playing out live, a new study finds.

A dramatic drying in 2021 — about as dry as 2002 and one of the driest years ever recorded for the region — pushed the 22-year drought past the previous record-holder for megadroughts in the late 1500s and shows no signs of easing in the near future, according to a study Monday in the journal Nature Climate Change.

The study calculated that 42% of this megadrought can be attributed to human-caused climate change.

“Climate change is changing the baseline conditions toward a drier, gradually drier state in the West and that means the worst-case scenario keeps getting worse,” said study lead author Park Williams, a climate hydrologist at UCLA. “This is right in line with what people were thinking of in the 1900s as a worst-case scenario. But today I think we need to be even preparing for conditions in the future that are far worse than this.”

Williams used 29 models to create a hypothetical world with no human-caused warming then compared it to what happened in real life — the scientifically accepted way to check if an extreme weather event is due to climate change.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


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To: Vigilanteman

Same here... Learned about that young.

“Do they teach that anymore?”

I do not think so, or it is twisted into something completely illogical to support the BS narrative. Such as “Trees can identify as they like and consuming Co2 is optional and not necessary”. lol


81 posted on 02/15/2022 8:15:00 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Da Coyote

You hit onto something. Everyone just copies what AP says. There is very little independent investigative journalism going on.


82 posted on 02/15/2022 8:20:33 AM PST by wiley (John 16:33: "In the world you have tribulation, but take courage ; I have overcome the world.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let’s pretend we can do anything about it. Then why are the idiots releasing water from the dams when they should be filling them up? “Save the toads and delta smelt...”


83 posted on 02/15/2022 8:22:30 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Fake News coming from the Puppet Masters.


84 posted on 02/15/2022 8:45:20 AM PST by Zathras
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To: Gaffer
I just took the top reference in my search.

Do you believe the national science federation , NOAA, Nasa and others?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=climate+modification&t=osx&ia=web

Colorado has been seeding clouds for snow for skiers and water for irrigation for years.

Here is more information: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=weather+modification&t=osx&ia=web

One wrong guy does not negate a whole field of science.

85 posted on 02/15/2022 8:48:29 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

Any time I see Geowatch.org as a reference I am suspicious. I cannot tell you as a university researcher of 30 years in radar, RF, electronics, electricity, etc. just how disingenuous I found that ‘thing’ to be. IMO, a complete scam artist.

As for your other references re: a cycle of warming, dryness, cooling or the like, yes I can agree that that sort of cycle is probably (may be) true. I am just tired of hearing that humans are responsible for it all in just the last 100 years or so.


86 posted on 02/15/2022 9:01:08 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Nathan _in_Arkansas

“the past century [in California] has been among the wettest of the last 7,000 years.”

https://www.mercurynews.com/2014/01/25/california-drought-past-dry-periods-have-lasted-more-than-200-years-scientists-say/


87 posted on 02/15/2022 9:06:18 AM PST by poindexters brother
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

B S


88 posted on 02/15/2022 9:14:22 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This is a regional climate cycle for the whole American Southwest which may go back to the end of the last ice age, and has been traced back several thousand years now.

Basically the 20th century was THE wettest century in the past 2000 years, and it is what we think of as normal. But average US precipitation in the past 2000 years averages 2/3 of the 20th century's, and a real drought in the area sees only 1/3 of the 20th century's. Paleoclimatologists believe we have entered such a megadrought. They say such droughts can last centuries.

So we can kiss off agriculture in the Southwest, as least as we've known it. Israel's agricultural sector is based on desalination of seawater, using natural gas-fired electric power plants, and is presently about the same proportion of GDP as California's (2%). But they use desalinated water for their population, and treated wastewater (former desalinated water) for agriculture.

This is not a good time to move to Arizona or Colorado. They're too far from the ocean to use desalinated water.

89 posted on 02/15/2022 9:41:31 AM PST by Thud
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To: JD_UTDallas; ClearCase_guy

Note that the space.com article does 2 things (among others):

Connect warmer with wetter.

Indicate considerable uncertainty about regional shifts.


90 posted on 02/15/2022 9:45:22 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Thud

oops, average US _Southwest_ precipitation in the past 2000 years averages 2/3 of the 20th centuries, etc.


91 posted on 02/15/2022 9:45:23 AM PST by Thud
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To: Gaffer
When Mt Pevatobo erupted it released more green house gases that the entire industrial revolution. There are volcanoes going off all the time.

H.A.R.R.P. is a dangerous high power high frequency device. There are over 20 such devices work wide part of a global weather war system. There is a lot of misinformation and even more information being kept secret. The Propaganda is winning.

92 posted on 02/15/2022 10:07:45 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They are squeezing us from all angles in California. Massive price increases in any sort of energy consumption as well as permit and otherwise limiting use of natural gas—but hammering us price wise for electric, water, and now our home insurance rates are up 32-36%—allowing for a Buffet of pricing. Such as $10,000 for earthquake insure an year, $9,000 for the most basic—nothing more (government intervened) fire insurance, $10,000 for a wrap policy (water damage, theft, etc), $500 a year for umbrella insurance. It is craziness. These are just basic policies to protect my home in the most basic of ways. And now we have inflation. It’s crazy out here. Gas is through the roof. I got a half tank the other day and it cost me $56.00.


93 posted on 02/15/2022 10:10:12 AM PST by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: mountainlion

Actually, I spent several days investigating the HAARP facility a few years back during Dane Wiggingon’s scare campaign about it. And as an RF and antenna engineer, it didn’t sum up to the hype, IMO. Last time I looked it was a facility that had lost its government project support funding and was advertising itself out as a TEST BED for RF experiments involving RF atmospheric investigations to other agencies and contractors.

And, IMO Mt Pinatubo had nothing to do with HAARP or any of the other “20 such devices” worldwide you mentioned - it was an internal geological volcanic event unconnected with any possible atmospheric RF event such as HAARP.


94 posted on 02/15/2022 10:30:53 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Nathan _in_Arkansas

Yeah, wonder what made it dry 1200 years ago.


95 posted on 02/15/2022 10:42:37 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Contempt is the essential tool of the tyrant.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

I’m not sure how transpiration + evaporation from worst case irrigation situations compares to ocean evaporation? Given that under some circumstances water vapor builds up as ice at the poles, MAYBE irrigation could add to long term ice buildup at the poles at the expense of the oceans. But, there’s no indication such circumstances are in play now.

Pulling large amounts of salty groundwater out for desalinization may have unintended side effects, though probably less so than pulling out too much fresh ground water.

Your posts remind us that the real problem is not a water shortage - it’s just where the water is or is not that is problematic. The Mississippi River south of it’s confluence with the Ohio River passes some 240 million acre-feet of water (and a little debris) annually.

https://coyotegulch.blog/2011/05/19/pipeline-from-the-mississippi-river-to-colorado/#:~:text=The%20Mississippi%20River%20passes%20more,are%20flowing%20at%20that%20spot%E2%80%A6


96 posted on 02/15/2022 10:48:23 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sniff sniff smells like ASS.press💩.


97 posted on 02/15/2022 11:03:51 AM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Thud

FWIW, 70% of Arizona’s water goes to agriculture - primarily to growing nuts and hay that is then shipped to Europe and China. Pretty easy to stop worrying about water when all we really need to do is stop growing crops for China and Europe IN A DESERT!


98 posted on 02/15/2022 11:12:04 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: mountainlion

Volcanos release more cooling emissions than green house emissions.

Now, in regards to CO2, on average human activity globally emits MORE CO2 per year than do volcanos, globally. A few years back I did the calculations based off figures for production of fossil fuels from major source countries, and an estimate, 10% IIRC, for minor sources. I also sourced estimates of volcanic emissions going back to when fears of an imminent ice age were bandied about. Try it.


99 posted on 02/15/2022 11:14:02 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: JD_UTDallas

So,we’re drinking dinosaur and mammoth p!as.🤔


100 posted on 02/15/2022 11:15:13 AM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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