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DeSantis digs in on redistricting fight against fellow Republicans
NBC News ^ | 14 Feb 22 | Jane C. Timm

Posted on 02/14/2022 7:22:54 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Republicans in the Florida House and Senate have proposed a map that would largely preserve the political status quo, while DeSantis wants to boost prospects for congressional Republicans.

Gov. Ron DeSantis is barreling toward an unusual showdown with Florida Republicans in a redistricting fight that centers on a largely Black congressional district.

Despite controlling both the Legislature and the Governor’s Mansion, Republicans are at odds over how Florida’s 28 congressional districts should look over the next decade. The intra-party debate is focused on the 5th Congressional District — which is about 46 percent Black — which DeSantis wants to divide up into several GOP-leaning districts instead of one favoring Democrats.

“There’s a major difference, disagreement, between the governor and the Legislature and on [the 5th District], and so that’s going to be a huge stumbling block moving forward,” said Michael McDonald, a political science professor at the University of Florida. “And there’s a lot of pressure on DeSantis to show that he’s a true Republican looking out for national Republican interests.”

The battle lines were drawn last month when DeSantis, who is seeking re-election this year and is widely thought to be considering a 2024 run for president, injected himself into redistricting plans. He took the unorthodox step of proposing his own map even though state Senate Republicans had already released one that would essentially preserve the balance of political power, with 16 Republican-leaning and 12 Democratic-leaning congressional seats.

DeSantis’ map would add two more seats to the GOP column and subtract two from Democrats, according to the Princeton Gerrymandering Project, which gave the map an “F” in its redistricting report card. The state Senate map, meanwhile, earned a “B.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: congress; desantis; election2022; fl; florida; msdnc; mslsd; msnbc; msnbo; redistricting
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"DeSantis’ map would add two more seats to the GOP column and subtract two from Democrats"

Sounds good to me.

1 posted on 02/14/2022 7:22:54 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Give them hell, Ron. I’ll still vote for Trump in a head-to-head, but I certainly have no issue voting for Ron in November.


2 posted on 02/14/2022 7:23:57 PM PST by BobL (Money is the most important thing in my life.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

If princeton is against it I’m for it.


3 posted on 02/14/2022 7:24:46 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Republicans often don’t get it that the Democrats are in a war of total destruction with them. This is not 1958. There is no crossing of the aisles, there is no accommodation. DeSantis gets that this is total political war. Good for him. Hope he’s president some day.


4 posted on 02/14/2022 7:26:38 PM PST by packagingguy
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Good for DeSantis.

He seems to be of Presidential Material.

Especially compared to, say, foam buoy.


5 posted on 02/14/2022 7:27:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: ealgeone

Jane went to Princeton?


6 posted on 02/14/2022 7:29:30 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel; Impy; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; LS; campaignPete R-CT; ...

The goal of every state government on redistricting matters should be a simple one where Republicans are concerned:

Eliminate every Demonrat held seat.

Period.


7 posted on 02/14/2022 7:35:08 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Plugs the Pedo - The Shart Heard 'Round The World)
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To: BobL

“Give them hell, Ron. I’ll still vote for Trump in a head-to-head, but I certainly have no issue voting for Ron in November.”

I second your position.(I’m backing Trump)

Good job Governor DeSantis, we need to be ruthless in redistricting, not just play “incumbent protection” because that’s what the GOP is comfortable with.

This is a plus for DeSantis, so I’m giving credit where credit is due. I just wish more Republicans knew how to fight instead of worrying about bad things being said about them in the media.


8 posted on 02/14/2022 7:37:47 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

thank God for the Warroom posse. the only reason this is being fought out in Florida and Missouri.


9 posted on 02/14/2022 7:40:11 PM PST by dadfly
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Since i live in that district which is gerrymandered to increase the minority numbers I AM in favor of di Santis’ plan ...LEX


10 posted on 02/14/2022 7:42:08 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

If you have power use it... DUH.


11 posted on 02/14/2022 7:50:38 PM PST by rwilson99 (How exactly would John 3:16 not apply to Mary?)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Let me remind the way to Gerrymander - You want to create few districts where your opponents have massive advantage (basically lock as many of them as possible into few districts.) while create as many districts as possible where your party has slight enough majority.
The problem with it is that your guys have to fight hard to win, while your opponents are just given few seats where they face almost not opponents. If voter preferences change just a little bit, you may end up with your opponents suddenly getting a lot of seats, you have not planed for.

I guess DeSantis prefers aggressive, but more risky path, the other would rather have few less, but safer districts! They have to run in these districts, while DeSantis is above it all.
I really do not know which path is better in this particular case (I do not know too much about Florida), but I would like to explain, that both sides have their reasons!
I remember, long time ago, Indiana Republicans Gerrymandered the state in such a way that Dems got really mad. It went all the way to Supreme Court, which approved their (Republican) plan.
Then, they ended up with 9 Democrats and only 2 Republicans, because the voter preferences changed just a little bit toward Dems. It backfired terribly.
Later, the Democrats, with their majority gerrymadered the state their way, and, voila, voter preference shifted back to Republicans and they are in charge ever since!
Gerrymandering is an art, it can backfire!


12 posted on 02/14/2022 8:36:52 PM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: packagingguy
Your statement has been written thousands of times over the years by thousands of people over the years. Democrats are doubling down in their war. So what will it take to get the R politicians to recognize the war? Or do they know it's a war and don't care or do they know it's a war and are too frightened and scared to fight it? By this point, I just think they are too scared and too weak to handle the blowblack, so they take the easy way out. In this case, since it involves the dismembering of a black district, they are frightened of being called a racist, so they're happy to stay with the status quo. It's just easier for them.

To replace these weaklings will take a long long time, so I'm not too optimistic of any real change any time soon. I'm hopeful 4 or 5 R incumbents are defeated in the upcoming primary season, so it's a start.

14 posted on 02/14/2022 10:02:26 PM PST by Dave W
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel; Joe Brower

I support the governor’s map.


15 posted on 02/14/2022 10:06:27 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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To: BobL

Ron seems to be one of only a handful of Republicans who realize modern politics is a game of rollerball, not golf.


16 posted on 02/14/2022 10:15:13 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Only two? Awwww... Freakin’ moderate.


17 posted on 02/15/2022 12:20:35 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (January 6, worst assault on democracy since the Reichstag Fire)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

In looking at the geographical map of the current 5th District it’s patently clear that it’s nothing but a blatant attempt to suck up pockets of increased minority residences over a very long distance. The breadth of it in most places seems just a mile or two. IMO, there should be no district where a line drawn from the centroid to any point on the perimeter crosses outside the district. Here with the 5th, that would be impossible in most any place.

https://images.dailykos.com/images/329322/story_image/Florida_5th_Congressional_District.png?1479502942


18 posted on 02/15/2022 12:36:04 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: AZJeep
I follow what you are writing and I think that is one of the reasons why the R's took the House in 1994 after 40 years of a democrat majority. It started in 1992, in which court decisions required black districts. A Clinton backlash helped, but putting blacks into single districts for the first time put the R's in control of the House in the 94 election. The democrats had to know this, but applauded the number of blacks in the House because they had no choice. Blacks increased from 27 to 39 after the 1992 election and 41 won in 1994. There are now 55.

Ten years ago, with the 2010 census complete, now the courts started to indicate that maybe gerrymandering to make black districts isn't justice after all and the democrats did not complain. Anyway, it can work both ways.

NM split its lone republican seat 3 different ways, but it made 3 of its districts less democrat leaning, so in a wave election that may occur in November, it is possible that R's win 3 seats instead of the one...we'll find out.

19 posted on 02/15/2022 12:59:31 AM PST by Dave W
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

RINOs sicken me. Are the Democrats playing by the Marquis de Queensbury rules in California? In Illinois? In New York? Of course not. The Republicans have got to play hardball in return. These gutless turds who see what is happening but who still want to go easy on them are 5th columnists.


20 posted on 02/15/2022 1:31:51 AM PST by FLT-bird
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