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To: surroundedbyblue

As a physician I simply disagree. We are not seeing this with our colleagues and groups. The clinical situation may influence the length in which ACLS is attempted. But you are confusing two issues. Palliative care is a reasonable consultation to get allows a full understanding of all options. I am comfortable having that discussion with families. Some are not.

If you believe that patient rights are being violated and that code status is not honored then please report that to the regulatory agencies. That should be investigated. But as for wide spread practice this is a very doubtful statement.


43 posted on 02/13/2022 2:53:37 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

what regulatory agency would you like me to report to? Since the CARES Act has permitted these things to happen legally then exactly what would some “authority” do?

You really discredit yourself with defensive statements that amount to “that would never happen”

It does happen, it is happening, and just because you say it isn’t doesn’t make it so.


49 posted on 02/13/2022 2:58:54 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable. )
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To: gas_dr

I have seen what the nurse describe also. Doctors follow protocols against patient’s or surrogate’s decisions, ignore legal documents of surrogacy, and slow walk antibiotics and hydration and adequate nutrition.

And on and on. Corporate owned health care is profit uber alles.


61 posted on 02/13/2022 4:14:54 PM PST by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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