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To: gas_dr

I have seen what the nurse describe also. Doctors follow protocols against patient’s or surrogate’s decisions, ignore legal documents of surrogacy, and slow walk antibiotics and hydration and adequate nutrition.

And on and on. Corporate owned health care is profit uber alles.


61 posted on 02/13/2022 4:14:54 PM PST by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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To: amihow

Your accusations are just untrue. Show me proof of a slow walking of antibiotics. Or denial of hydration. There are medical instances where we run people ok the dry side for a multitude of reasons. But this is something lay people mischaracterize. Balancing optimal volume against pathology is something that requires training and proper analysis of labs and radiology. Did you ever stop to think of that? Do you have any appreciation of what pathologies require fluid expansion vs fluid restriction? Do you know what to watch to determine optimal treatment for a given disease stare?

What evidence have you of someone ignoring legal documents of surrogacy? Remember decision making regarding scope of treatment is different than a surrogate demanding a medication that in the judgment od the physician is not warranted. In other words, o cannot ignore you telling me a patient would want everything done. That is a oatient wish. A patient cannot demand a treatment tier of in my medical judgment would be not beneficial or harmful.

So please do let me know what legal papers have been ignored. And slow walk nutrition. What do you mean by this? Are you able express what you are talking about in concrete facts. My guess is that you generalize something and have no idea what the implications are.

Without understanding specific instances where hydration, antibiotics or nutrition are withheld you have made general accusations that simply are not true as it would result in either significant torts or license action.

And I am a little tired of hearing of protocols. I would love to see a protocol that I am directed and forced to use. In hospital order systems and EMRs there are indeed standard order sets but I can alter anything of them however I would like to individualize care according to my judgment.

As I am the one with the license and scope of care to sign the orders, I have free reign to do what I think is best. People simply do not want to understand this.


82 posted on 02/13/2022 5:41:36 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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