Posted on 01/18/2022 9:20:25 AM PST by wardaddy
Wow.....me you and about two others
The rest here brainwashed by the mythology purveyed
Conservatism without an unencumbered acceptance of the truth ....is vapid
It’s wiki but it has some validity
Have you ever seen the 1974 vote map
You should Google it
They were Republicans.
After democrats/elites moved into the civil rights movement King moved toward socialism and the larger movement switched from non-violent to violent. 1963 was the year democrats stated glorifying their criminals. 1964 was the year the 'in crowd' dubbed King an Uncle Tom.
King used Gandhi's strategy. Which included getting arrested. King's movement almost died in Albany Georgia when the Sheriff - rather than playing into King's hand's - read some books on nonviolence and told his people NOT to arrest King or any of King's people. Luckily for King - one deputy didn't get the word - King was arrested and when released he quickly moved on to the next city.
The way the glorification of criminals happened was people like Dick Gregory would travel with King - getting arrested as an ethical non-violent act of civil disobedience - and would use that fact on leaflets to rally 'the troops'. Late '63 was the first time I saw common criminals putting their arrest 'bonifides' on a handout. They didn't understand robbing a store was not the same as an intentional act of ethical civil disobedience...
Since democrats in the South were the party of segregation and the KKK and white citizens councils it's hard to believe King would have started his movement as a democrat. Or that people in his Church or movement would be democrats...
John Tower is another Senator who switched from Democrat to Republican, in 1951. I’m not sure if he had ever joined the States Rights Democratic Party which was the actual name of the Dixiecrats, but I suspect that he was sympathetic.
Strom had a romance with a black maid that produced a daughter, Essie Mae Washington-Williams.
“Williams, a retired schoolteacher who lives in Los Angeles, announced last weekend she is the illegitimate daughter of Thurmond, a former segregationist, and Carrie Butler, a maid for the Thurmond family. Thurmond was 22 and Butler was 16 when Williams was born in Aiken, S.C., in 1925”
“Williams was raised in Pennsylvania by an aunt and uncle, seeing her mother sporadically. She met Thurmond when she was 16.
“I knew him beyond his public image,” Williams said. “I certainly never did like the idea that he was a segregationist, but there was nothing I could do about it. That was his life.”
However, Williams said, Thurmond never denied she was his daughter and gave her money throughout her life. She also said there were others who knew. “All of them on his staff knew exactly who I was,” she said.”
I addressed this person in another thread and I believe even a few others and they ignore me. It’s that damn article from 15 years ago that was so bad that keeps getting repeated/quoted as if it’s the gospel truth. As we often see, wanting something to be true is not the same as it BEING true.
Depends on where in the South and when. Though this is generally correct, there are some outliers. This also began to shift overall in 1948. In 1952, many in the South began to break for the GOP at the top of the ticket and took close to 6 decades or longer to trickle all the way downballot (in some cases, still trickling down).
"Conservative whites from the north were Republican until they figured out that NO REPUBLICAN HAD A SNOW BALL'S CHANCE IN HELL OF WINNING. Then they became democrats to vote against the worst of the democrats."
Some did, but most did not. In states with little Northern migration to them, but many Northerners helped to transform Southern states.
"And blacks? They were Republicans."
By 1934/36, Northern Blacks (most of whom were living in urban areas) shifted from Republican to Democrat. Most Southern Blacks were disenfranchised, so they had minimal input. An unusual situation was here in Tennessee, specifically in Memphis, which had a large Black population. They were "permitted" to vote, but for designated candidates by the Democrat Boss Ed Crump. He allowed them to vote so he could put his puppet candidate over the top statewide. Other than that, yes, the leanings still remained GOP, but with many Southern Blacks being influenced by their Northern brethren, in the FDR/Truman era, many were preferring the more leftist/activist route of action (which the GOP was not really offering).
The part you're not going to like is this... and it's the central point you can't answer, because you've based it off your personal hope for MLK Jr and not what he actually was. His FATHER, MLK Sr., was a Republican supporter, but that ceased in 1960 when he switched from supporting Nixon to JFK. MLK Jr. was a left-winger and committed activist. He was trained at the notorious Communist Highlander Folk School here in my state of Tennessee. These were not Conservative Republicans. Some Blacks were committed Republicans at that time, some were committed Democrats (but Northern-sympathizing leftist Democrat).
The only time I have ever seen any evidence factually presented that MLK Jr voted Republican was in 1956 for President. That's it. One time. And that might've been confused for his father. However, Black Democrats such as Congressman Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. of NYC also endorsed and voted for Ike in 1956. That would be the high-water mark for Black GOP support post-Hoover (1932 being the last time Blacks voted GOP for President to date). 1960 with Nixon would be the last time the GOP got more than about 25-33% of the Black voted.
Since 1964, the GOP has been lucky to break 10%. Gerald Ford in 1976 was one of the highest since, and he didn't reach 15%. This against a demonstrable racist in Jimmy Carter (who ran a racist campaign for Governor in 1970) and who was supported by, yup, MLK Sr., who willfully ignored Carter's recent past and means to rise to power.
Sadly, the Black community had been so radicalized by 1970 that when Sammy Davis, Jr. in 1972 endorsed Nixon (remembering well that that paragon of Civil Rights virtue, JFK, wouldn't even look him in the eye when meeting with him a dozen years earlier and also having Kennedy flunkies order him NOT to marry the White actress May Britt lest it upset White Democrats), he was savagely attacked and denounced for "straying from the plantation."
But getting back to the issue at hand, once again, to emphasize that MLK Jr was not a committed Republican. Clearly he voted for JFK in 1960, LBJ in 1964 and likely Humphrey in 1968 (had he lived to November). His father did so. He went so far as to denounce Sen. Goldwater, who had been pro-civil rights but opposed the 1964 CRA rightfully as a government overreach, as a "tool of Southern White Supremacists." Hearing him in an interview, he also considered the Soviet Communist model as a viable and competitive political system to the American model. He did not denounce it. Despite his words and speeches which sounded good (curiously plagiarizing the speech of Republican activist and Black minister Archibald Carey, Jr. of Chicago), his actions and embrace of the far-left throughout the 1960s and leading Blacks down that path have helped expose him and his true agenda. In any event, once again, he was not a Republican (any more than Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. was for voting that single time for Ike). If you can point to any works, books, etc., that has a definitive record of his voting that contradict the above, feel free to post it. But please don't reference that crackpot and false article by that lady from 15 years ago who even managed to call the prominent NY Socialist party activist and candidate A. Philip Randolph a "Republican." That has been the ONLY evidence cited by the "MLK Jr was a Republican" people, and it's not credible.
A real curiosity was Sen. John Stennis of MS. He was arguably “Conservative” for a time, but as soon as the post-Watergate moonbats started coming into Congress, he moved to the left, along with the party. He earned a 100% Conservative rating from the American Conservative Union in 1972. By 1979, he had gone down to 43%. With his last reelection in 1982 (against a young Haley Barbour) he faked a move right (up to 68%), only to drop to 24% the next year. He hit a rock-bottom 16.67% in 1987, before leaving with a paltry 33% in 1988.
It’s funny that had he switched parties in the early 1970s, he could’ve held the seat until his death without a problem, but these were die-hard Democrats to the bitter end, even if it meant they went far left. Just like the Klan supported Gov. John Paterson in Alabama. He was a Kennedy disciple and backed Zero for President decades later in 2008. Strong party loyalty, but no ideological loyalty and at the cost of their souls.
You can find similar cretins who were supporters of Grover Cleveland and center-right politics in the late 19th century who would embrace the leftism of Bryan, Wilson and Co. (though at least in Bryan’s case, while his economic policies were nutty, he never wavered on being a good Christian and died with his soul intact. Most of the neo Socialists of the “New” Democrat party had no use for Bryan’s Christianity).
They passed this before coming a State, a year later, I believe. Otherwise, you are correct.
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