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US needs more Asians to avoid demographic death ---- A skills-based immigration system could halt the demographic winter that has descended on America
asiatimes.com ^ | January 16, 2022 | David P. Goldman

Posted on 01/15/2022 10:59:30 AM PST by elpadre

Now that Elon Musk has tweeted that “population collapse is potentially the greatest risk to the future of civilization,” it must be true. America’s total fertility rate fell in 2020 to only 1.67 births per female, the lowest in history, and well below the replacement level of 2.1.

Ten years ago, when I published How Civilizations Die, the United States still made babies at the replacement rate, though (as I noted) this depended on high fertility among two groups of Americans: Evangelical Christians and Hispanics.

Now demographic winter has descended on America, and there is no obvious path to recovery. The only medium-term solution lies in the immigration of skilled adults, and the only two prospective sources of large-scale immigration of skilled adults are China and India.

Civilizations die because they want to. Nations that live for the present and eschew a vision of their future do not take the trouble to raise children. Today’s demographic decline has precedents in the hollowing-out of Hellenistic Greece after the Alexandrian conquests, and the decline of Rome several centuries later.

In the modern era, religious commitment has been the strongest predictor of the desire to bring future generations into the world; other writers, notably the British demographer Eric Kaufmann, have made parallel arguments.

What demographers call the great fertility transition occurred with urbanization and the end of child labor. In agricultural societies and early modern industry, children were cheap labor and considered (as in wrongful death lawsuits) a resource with a definable monetary value.

Once national pension systems replaced family care for the aged, and children no longer were expected to work until early adulthood, children offered spiritual rather than monetary value.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: h1b
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To: elpadre

Asia Times says we need to import more Asians, because Asians are superior. LOL.


61 posted on 01/15/2022 1:22:56 PM PST by Lurch Addams
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To: Petrosius

“...encourage women to stay home and raise children....”

That was one of the writer’s suggestions:
“+Encourage a higher fertility rate through economic incentives;..”


62 posted on 01/15/2022 1:24:15 PM PST by elpadre ( ying them.)
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To: 2banana
"All Asian countries are imploding with fertility."

NOPE!

Chinese Birthrate Falls To A New Low

63 posted on 01/15/2022 1:25:07 PM PST by blam
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To: 2banana
"All Asian countries are imploding with fertility."

NOPE!

Chinese Birthrate Falls To A New Low

64 posted on 01/15/2022 1:25:23 PM PST by blam
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To: Lurch Addams

“...because Asians are superior...”

I thought he said to import more skilled people and Asia was a source. We now are importing millions of illegal un-skilled people.

He also said importing skilled people is an economic positive as they pay taxes, whereas bringing in millions of un-skilled people drain the treasury as we spend literally billions of dollars maintaining them. And that is a fact!


65 posted on 01/15/2022 1:31:39 PM PST by elpadre ( ying them.)
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To: elpadre

No more immigration of any kind PERIOD. We need to develop domestic talent.


66 posted on 01/15/2022 1:33:21 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: elpadre

This is is stupid. It is real simple. Stopping all immigration will push up wages and increase the incentives to study, work, learn and procreate.


67 posted on 01/15/2022 1:35:20 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: elpadre

Economic incentives are not enough. As a society we need to reject feminist ideology which denies the unique role of women in the home.


68 posted on 01/15/2022 1:36:19 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: elpadre
the article refers to the skilled workers - scientists, engineers, etc. - the big bucks boys!

You myopic fool. Imported workers have lowered STEM wages so much so that adjusted for inflation they are way down from the 1990's.

69 posted on 01/15/2022 1:37:49 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Yes,well educated and highly skilled Japanese and Koreans would be far,far more preferable to Mexicans...Guatemalans,etc.

Spoken like a real cheap labor whore. Most GOPers really are just that....

70 posted on 01/15/2022 1:39:46 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

I’m not sure I agree with that.

I work in STEM and I’m making more money than I ever have before.

I’ve made a ton fixing stuff that these H1B visa holders write.


71 posted on 01/15/2022 1:45:06 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Mr. K
I work in STEM and I’m making more money than I ever have before.

Adjust it for inflation. I made WAY more in 1995 than I do now. Now I do 8 times the work/responsibility for 3/4 of the pay. I am now doing what a 8 people used to do. I am the last in this department and I have all the corporate technical knowledge about legacy software.

72 posted on 01/15/2022 1:50:02 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: elpadre

“only 1.67 births per female”

We may be saved. Births per male are climbing>


73 posted on 01/15/2022 2:00:29 PM PST by cymbeline
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To: elpadre

with the jabs sterilizing women, expect the 2022 birth rate to be even lower


74 posted on 01/15/2022 2:08:25 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style )
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To: central_va

It would seem like that’s a bargaining point.

If you’re not making well over six figures Contact me


75 posted on 01/15/2022 2:18:20 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: central_va

I agree to stop all illegal importation and all these odd-ball visa mechanisms. But the US must regain it’s manufacturing might again. Not too long ago we were the best and then it disappeared, thanks to some shortsighted administrations. Those who keep the demographic data say we don’t have the employees to manufacture the critical material we need to approach the self-sufficiency many of us want. Some of the low skilled in our country now can be trained, but not near enough. I believe we need an immigration policy as we once had where we carefully screened legal immigrants who would come here without needing any upkeep by the government. There was also an established quota whereby each continent would supply a certain number. I believe a Congressional committee would look at the needs of the nation and establish the overall number, and then determine the continental quotas.


76 posted on 01/15/2022 2:22:54 PM PST by elpadre ( ying them.)
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To: central_va

“...You myopic fool...”

Open your eyes and read, young man. I was trying to tell you what the writer said.


77 posted on 01/15/2022 2:26:13 PM PST by elpadre ( ying them.)
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To: elpadre

Yes because congressional committees know everything! The government will fix it for us!

Oh wise congressional committee please give us quotas!

(Am I being sarcastic enough? Or do I need the /s tag?)


78 posted on 01/15/2022 2:28:51 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Mr. K

“..congressional committees know everything..”

Yes, but who else? One thing for sure, today’s Congress in probably the dumbest of all time.


79 posted on 01/15/2022 2:35:34 PM PST by elpadre ( ying them.)
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To: elpadre
"Decline in US birthrates, the ethnic population mix, is a topic of some importance for those interested in the future of the nation. Little is written about it."

Bullshit.

"So when a article such as this appears it behooves us all to read what this guy has to say. No question he has studied it and is presenting it as he sees it."

More bullshit.

In the past six months alone, you have posted 68 articles from AsiaTimes.

The author of the bullshit piece you posted, Spoogler, led an investor group to purchase -- AsiaTimes.

"On March 14, 2015, Goldman and longtime Asia Times associate Uwe Von Parpart joined an investor group that took control of Asia Times HK Ltd." --wiki

You owe every Freeper an explanation and we want it NOW.

80 posted on 01/15/2022 4:09:19 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least 1 of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, Merck and GSK)
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