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To: where's_the_Outrage?

We have to stop confusing “Military” with “Combatant”. Most military are in support roles that would never see combat. They retire when they are forty, they collect benefits and accolades galore, and they start a second career. It sucks for we who pay for it all, and it sucks for the combatants whose glory is diluted. First thing I do when I see a new five star general on the scene is look at his breast full of ribbons — how many are for valor? Usually NONE. Next time you are tempted to buy a vet a beer, ask them if they were ever shot at, or if they instead filled their free lodgings with discounted stereo equipment and empty subsidized beer cans.


2 posted on 01/13/2022 2:22:41 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve

Why isn’t there a congressional windfall elimination provision?


3 posted on 01/13/2022 2:30:18 PM PST by hercuroc
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To: Born to Conserve

Getting shot at is, itself, sort of foggy. Submarine folks haven’t been shot at in many years. Navy food technicians, cooks, whatever, might be on a submarine. No more or less at risk than the rest of that crew.

Everybody signs on the line that is dotted committing to follow orders and if a cook is ordered to Iraq, he goes.


4 posted on 01/13/2022 2:32:42 PM PST by Owen
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To: Born to Conserve

Don’t discount peace time military enlisted. My husband gave 7 years of his youth to this country. They owned him and paid him very little for his service. Have you served??


5 posted on 01/13/2022 2:35:31 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Born to Conserve

Scud Smashes Barracks; 27 Killed, 98 Injured

Published: Tue, February 26, 1991 12:00 AM

DHAHRAN, Saudi Arabia (AP) In the worst Scud attack of the Gulf War, an Iraqi missile on Monday demolished a barracks housing about 100 American soldiers. The U.S. military said 27 servicemen were killed and 98 wounded.

It’s ok, they were just suport troops so it’s not like they made the ultimate sacrifice for their country. S/off +spit.


9 posted on 01/13/2022 2:39:47 PM PST by Farmerbob
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To: Born to Conserve

You piss me off .
Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE who served gave this country something that they can never get back...

Time

Now get the hell off of this site, you anti American pile of crap


11 posted on 01/13/2022 2:50:58 PM PST by joe fonebone (bush league chamber of commerce worshiping republiCAN'Ts are the enemy)
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To: Born to Conserve

Born to Conserve, sadly your ignorance is showing. I’ll let you research who the last “Five Star General” the USA ever had and whether he saw combat. With the respect to USAF which I know fairly well, until recent times, virtually all general officers have had multiple tours in combat (getting shot at flying over pissed off enemy while trying to kill them tends to make them pissed off).


14 posted on 01/13/2022 2:53:27 PM PST by Portcall24
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To: Born to Conserve

There haven’t been any five-star generals or admirals since 1981 when Omar Bradley died.


19 posted on 01/13/2022 3:01:45 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: Born to Conserve; All
"And post o’er land and ocean without rest:
They also serve who only stand and wait.”

22 posted on 01/13/2022 3:05:57 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Born to Conserve

I’m impressed. How many five star generals have you met?


36 posted on 01/13/2022 3:58:48 PM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Born to Conserve

Huh?

Define “comatant”.

Do you mean a combat/combat support arms skill specialty but not a combat service support specialty?

Or do you mean any MOS/skill AND saw direct combat (do you wanna specify general combat, CQB or hand to hand? Maybe driving a truck down a MSR with a rather strong possibility of contact or mechanical ambush? Which truck driver in a convoy was actually the combatant and which were the “poques”?

Your equivocation degrades the character of all our service- we go where told and even the nurse that stitched me up saw combat.


37 posted on 01/13/2022 4:10:57 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: Born to Conserve

Your reply sounds like one who never had the courage to join any of the military services or who did manage to get thru basic (with the help of his more capable buddies) before you got your BCD.

You have no idea how wars are fought today. With modern weapons, any military personnel in any location can be targeted at any time.


40 posted on 01/13/2022 4:54:15 PM PST by Grognard49
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To: Born to Conserve

A good friend, was in a military support role that never saw combat. His work, was to maintain the tools required by operations.

My friend who would not tolerate interference with our needing to finish the war, soon, got in the way of troublemakers and on the path of fixing, or helping to fix, portions of such problems.

Still not shot at, as far as I ever learned, but facing a lot of carelessly applied gov’t power that was in the hands of people who were the same “visionaries” on the left, as now.

My friend and other WW-II veterans, who would stand up against tyranny - foreign and domestic. And they largely succeeded, contrary to the claims made by

- “experts say”
- “studies show”
- “informed sources”
- “students for integration” (followed by)
- “students for segregation”

and other vanities that continue to ignore universals of kindness, love, and truth.

Lenin hated all three of those.

I miss my friends who stood up for all three, and tried hard, to establish neighborhoods where kindness, love, and truth were equal opportunities. Where you could sleep safely and in peace, and therefore tackle the next day’s problems with fewer handicaps.

That was a wonderful time in America. People took care of each other.

The negative look that somebody imagines they see in another person’s eyes . . . was not, and still is not, necessarily what the imagination claims.

What I found, is that a lot of people simply want to know, Will you stand up? And that, is the question in their supposedly “negative looking” eyes, that “modernity” now tries to assert, is “arrogance” or “privilege.”

Most of my friends, were WW-II veterans; and they, plus their families, all knew, we were blessed.

It paid, to not allow one’s self to be focused upon envy, and be tempted to fight.


46 posted on 01/13/2022 6:08:23 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Born to Conserve

Oh just stop. All military service is honorable.

Stop taking cheap shots at the military.


56 posted on 01/14/2022 3:47:18 AM PST by Fury
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To: Born to Conserve
"It sucks for we who pay for it all, and it sucks for the combatants whose glory is diluted. "

You're just a punkassed glory hound, what's your real name John Kerry?

I'm a retiree and spent 9 years in Iraq, Afghanistan..... as a contractor and out side the wire armed repeatedly, and taken fire, (just wait till we contractors get veteran status, I can hear you whining now) so whine about your diluted glory, and while you at it go piss up a rope.

"It sucks for we who pay for it all" No it just sucks to be you.

57 posted on 01/14/2022 9:01:12 AM PST by SERE_DOC ( The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. TJ)
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