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Justice Gorsuch Pens Lone Dissent But Leaves the Text Behind as Justice Barrett Opinion Limits Social Security Benefits for the Military
Law & Crime ^ | Jan 13, 2022 | Colin Kalmbacher

Posted on 01/13/2022 2:12:05 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

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To: Born to Conserve

What is it you meant, non figuratively?

How would you delineate?

I’ll try to help you. It’s not unusual for someone to complete basic training, and then see a doc and find a knee or hip or whatever issue. They got through the running in basic, but it will never last more than a year or two and the service wants more. So they can be drummed out. Medical discharge.

They were on active duty XX days. VA limits eligibility to those with more than XX days. So that would be the sort of thing you’re hunting for — but in that case, it already exists. That person won’t collect.

I can help you further. “Uniformed service”. That includes some weird public health service. It’s not military at all. They never promise to go to combat (that I know of), but they wear a uniform.

So you could exclude them, but I think it’s small potatos.


21 posted on 01/13/2022 3:04:49 PM PST by Owen
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To: Born to Conserve; All
"And post o’er land and ocean without rest:
They also serve who only stand and wait.”

22 posted on 01/13/2022 3:05:57 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Amy Conehead Barrett strikes again. The “windfall” provision is garbage. Someone spends a 20 years in the military or something, and then works another 25 years in the SS side of the world, they get their SS payments docked.
You know who doesn’t get any windfall penalty? The lazy turds who never worked, foreigners, etc, who get SS disability.
They get the full check.

Rich snots like Amy Conehead Barrett couldn’t care less about that.

She turned out just as I predicted. A loser.


23 posted on 01/13/2022 3:09:39 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: hanamizu

“It’s important that we don’t double dip.”

Why? If you satisfy all the requirements of a Social Security vesting, you should get that amount commensurate. Even if you were in a teacher system for a decade or two also.
I notice the right people do not get their pensions docked, such as Congressmen.


24 posted on 01/13/2022 3:13:53 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: joe fonebone

A real moron. Born to suck is a better name.


25 posted on 01/13/2022 3:14:14 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: hercuroc

“Why isn’t there a congressional windfall elimination provision?”

CONgressCritters (and their staff) have their own special retirement plan. They would like you to believe otherwise.


26 posted on 01/13/2022 3:15:55 PM PST by utax
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
The Supreme Court of the United States denied certain military veterans a chance at greater retirement benefits in a nearly unanimous opinion authored by Justice Amy Coney Barrett on Thursday.

I am not a military veteran, but I had my SS benefits reduced by 40% because of the windfall provision. I had a civil service career with a ten year break working for the private sector and making social security payments during that time.

I remember when the windfall provision was enacted; it was because the Democrats were jealous of the military veterans benefits, so they put a stop to it.

But it somehow affects those with no military service. One group impacted includes women and single mothers being punished along with the military.

27 posted on 01/13/2022 3:16:59 PM PST by olezip
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To: hanamizu

“It’s important that we don’t double dip. On the other hand, President Obama no doubt receives an Illinois pension for when he was a state senator, a pension for his time as U.S. Senator and another as President. Don’t know of Social Security sends him money too.”

Convicted felon jesse jackson jr. rakes in ~$7,000/month in federal disability. Poor guy is bipolar don’t cha know? Daddy jackson checked him into the hospital long enough to make sure he qualified. Expect any and all CONgressCritters who get felony convictions to do the same.


28 posted on 01/13/2022 3:19:28 PM PST by utax
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To: patriotsoul

“I asked Senator John Cornyn when the WEA was in front of the Senate to repeal this law, and his response back to me was “it is too costly.””

Too costly to pay you what you earned. Of course the Mexican immigrants get much more than your cool 250 a month. You need to fly to Monterrey, wade the Rio Grande and show up with a new name that ends in “Z”. They’ll hand you a debit card with 1200 bucks preloaded, and more follows right away.


29 posted on 01/13/2022 3:19:52 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: patriotsoul

They pass bills now, trillions in size at a time. They dump 6 trillion on Afghanistan. They dump hundreds of billions on New York Schools that are closed. 200k here for Fauci to give tranny drugs to monkeys. Millions for Fauci to give to communist China.

But how dare you as a mere Texas school marm deign to want the 500 bucks you were owed by SS without the docking half of it? How unpatriotic of you! /s


30 posted on 01/13/2022 3:26:01 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: DesertRhino

It’s not Barrett’s or the majority’s call. They just applied the law as written instead of making up the law. Your beef is with Congress, who wrote and passed the law.


31 posted on 01/13/2022 3:29:24 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: DesertRhino

“It’s important that we don’t double dip.”
Why? If you satisfy all the requirements of a Social Security vesting, you should get that amount commensurate.


I failed to add the /s tag. Of course I should get the amount I earned, but I don’t and I don’t think I ever will. Thing is, unlike my state pension, the money I ‘contributed’ through the payroll tax isn’t really mine.

Why Congress decided to call whatever I might draw that I fully earned a ‘windfall’, I don’t know. Windfalls are apples from your neighbor’s tree that fall on your property. You didn’t grow or tend the tree, but you get some of the fruit. I paid the money in, but only get 60% of what I should get.

I long ago decided to not be bothered by it. Nothing I can do.


32 posted on 01/13/2022 3:31:11 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment
I think this applies in cases where the pension is exempt from SS withholding, thus they don't allow those retirees to claim benefits as if they had paid in as others would.

We are talking about people who paid into SS and then took a job with exempt status, they still paid just like everyone else but just get their amount deducted by 40% what is fair about that? By the way you still paid medicare whether you paid SS or not.

33 posted on 01/13/2022 3:37:52 PM PST by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: DesertRhino

Well said...


34 posted on 01/13/2022 3:44:20 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: BatGuano

This is very true! It seems like retiring military folks are milking the system and getting away with it.


35 posted on 01/13/2022 3:48:03 PM PST by vortigern
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To: Born to Conserve

I’m impressed. How many five star generals have you met?


36 posted on 01/13/2022 3:58:48 PM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Born to Conserve

Huh?

Define “comatant”.

Do you mean a combat/combat support arms skill specialty but not a combat service support specialty?

Or do you mean any MOS/skill AND saw direct combat (do you wanna specify general combat, CQB or hand to hand? Maybe driving a truck down a MSR with a rather strong possibility of contact or mechanical ambush? Which truck driver in a convoy was actually the combatant and which were the “poques”?

Your equivocation degrades the character of all our service- we go where told and even the nurse that stitched me up saw combat.


37 posted on 01/13/2022 4:10:57 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
Don’t discount peace time military enlisted. My husband gave 7 years of his youth to this country. They owned him and paid him very little for his service. Have you served??

Looks like our boy won't answer you, even after I directly asked him your question again.

He looks like a pitiful troll hiding in his mother's basement.

38 posted on 01/13/2022 4:36:13 PM PST by pfflier
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Socialist Security


39 posted on 01/13/2022 4:38:11 PM PST by Theophilus (Thes so-called "vaccines" are the top three comorbidities)
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To: Born to Conserve

Your reply sounds like one who never had the courage to join any of the military services or who did manage to get thru basic (with the help of his more capable buddies) before you got your BCD.

You have no idea how wars are fought today. With modern weapons, any military personnel in any location can be targeted at any time.


40 posted on 01/13/2022 4:54:15 PM PST by Grognard49
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