Posted on 01/09/2022 10:13:32 AM PST by rktman
Imagine: It is September 4, 2035, in Miami and a large Cat. 5 hurricane is offshore headed straight for the city.
Roughly 7 million persons are in the general area where the hurricane will come ashore in 24 hours. The governor orders an evacuation of the Miami–Fort Lauderdale area of Florida. All of the cars start heading north on I-95. All lanes are cleared to head northbound. With Congress and President Cortez having mandated that all cars built after 2030 must be electric (no hybrids), everyone heads north, but now all the people are caught up in a terrible traffic jam.
Electric cars are starting to stall out on I-95 as well as the A1A and the Turnpike as they run out of power. There are simply not enough charging stations to charge the cars, and police monitoring the available chargers are limiting drivers to 15 minutes. Chargers are shutting down as water shorts out the charging heads on the cars. The electric cars are turning off their air-conditioners to preserve their remaining charge.
You are stuck in a traffic jam all night with the storm headed right at you. No battery, no A/C, no windshield-wipers, no GPS. All that you can do is call 911 and hope for help, but they can't because all of the roads are blocked with stalled electric vehicles. The new electric police and EMT vehicles mandated by President Cortez soon are out of juice. The wind is increasing. Then Florida Power and Light turns off the grid as power lines come down.
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Yep, I have never seen cars stuck in traffic evading a hurricane, these people are cra-cra.
And if I was in the Middle East and the military, I’d care.
I don’t think that anyone has mentioned this, but a site I read, Jalopnik, mentioned that quite a few electric vehicles don’t have any concept of a “free-wheeling neutral”. They must be flat towed and it takes very considerable force to move them (humans aren’t going to be pushing them to the side of the road). Not all EV’s fail to move from battery issues, there will always be electronics/fuse issues.
I was joking around. My financial picks are so bad, I thought about charging companies to not buy their stocks. I have the statements to prove it.
Let me know and we can get a FR Inc going. Lol
“SRS Dig deep into the internet and read up on EV’s from auto technology trade groups and development groups why Ev’s are being promoted...and it ain’t the environment. I said the reason above in a post...hint: minimum labor cost and maximing profits”
It is less capital- and labor-intensive to bend metal (especially these days) than it is to mass-produce a drivetrain that will pass ever-increasing regulations worldwide. The real change with EV’s will be the near disappearance of a good part the automotive ecosystem and economy. When I was a kid, I read that 1/7th of the US economy involved transportation. Bet it’s not that now, and it will be even less in the future. What will all of those workers do for a living? IDK. Maybe write code for EV’s?
Bring a generator for your EV. Bring some gasoline. Should still be around (might be expensive, if not, then ethanol).
The electrical grid has been predicted to collapse before EVs were only a novelty. There are people out there who’s only job is to keep property developers inline with their plans. The developers usually don’t but pay livable ( for them ) heavy fines. We’re lucky if the developers only add double the houses to the grid. The fines are all we can get. Disasters and charging stations don’t even enter into this.
“More than likely due to electric grid collapse when everyone plus their cars in at the same time. It will be called the great plugging hour of January 6 2000 EST 2032. It will of course be blamed on trump and conservatives. Without electricity, no one will hear about it.”
Problems will develop on their own without people going out of their way to make them. Those 9-5 commuters of the future (there may be proportionally less, but they will still be there) will plug in their cars as they pull into the garage. It will be a TREMENDOUS investment in electrical distribution infrastructure to handle that - never mind, the “peak generation capacity” needed.
“Bring a generator for your EV. Bring some gasoline. Should still be around (might be expensive, if not, then ethanol).”
Soon, you may not be able to buy a portable generator in CA.
I wasn’t even in the military at the time but have adhered to the policy since then. It’s great if there’s an emergency and you don’t want to sit in gas lines.
“What will all of those workers do for a living? IDK. Maybe write code for EV’s?”
I work in employee benefits. I have seen what automation has done since 1985 when I got into the business.
Automation is really a scary unknown. Self driving semis will be around the corner and 3-4 million high paying truck driving jobs are going to be gone.
I live in coal country. What once took 2000 miners now with longwall machinery takes just a handful of people and they produce more coal in a day than human miners did in a month.
I saw a documentary on Ev;s. There is a company in Toledo Oh whose only client is GM and they make fuel rails. 90 employees. When EV’s take over those folks will be out of job.
I do not have the answers. Automation will further turn this country into have and have nots worse than we have now.
Your obviously very smart EE. When will we see a delta T charging system. Haven’t heard of many breakthroughs in TEG materials. Thoughts?
Florida is over 400 miles long which exceeds the range of most of today’s EV’s. Even accounting for progress in EV range by 2035, it isn’t ridiculous to think that even fully charged EV’s won’t make it out of the hurricane’s path on one charge
I drive 50,000 miles a year. The last time I ran out was in 1991. My wife picked me up at the airport. For some reason she had my moms car in which the dash lights had just gone out.
Since I couldn’t see the gauge I hadn’t given it any thought.
Over 1,000,000 miles since then without running out seems that not driving paranoid of running below 1/2 a tank seems like a good bet.
Plus that, I drive a company car with a fleet gas card. 10 mpg when pulling a trailer. A few months ago, thanks to a very long trip, I filled up 1/4 of a tank in a state with high gas price planning to fill completely 50 miles down the road. My card had reached its daily limit at three uses. The fourth one didn’t work as some sort of a fraud preventative.
In other words, if I tried your method, I couldn’t drive any of my common 600+ mile days.
Either way, be prepared before the hurricane comes.
Now, if the power goes out but doesn't damage your house, and you have a sizeable solar system on your house (which I do), and you have an EV (which I don't, but I'm thinking about it) you might be the only one in your house putting new miles into your car (as well as have power to live on).
And also a good time to invent a gas can for electric vehicles.
I’ll ask some more knowledgeable engineers in that area tomorrow.
And people are wondering why California is losing population?
Maybe we need to add an amendment to your constitution, if you want to vote, you have to serve in the military. Once you serve 5 years in then military, you are eligible to vote and run for office. Sort of like Starship Troopers.
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