Posted on 01/09/2022 8:16:11 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
CNN anchor Jake Tapper said Sunday on his show “State of the Union” that the statues of Confederate leaders in Congress are “tributes to traders” that honor political violence like the events of January 6, 2021.
Tapper said, “On Thursday night, the one-year anniversary of the attack on the U.S. Capitol, CNN hosted an event at the Capitol to talk about that horrible day.”
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The passage “levying war against them” certainly gave Lincoln the language he needed. It would have been such a perplexing situation if Jefferson Davis had been able to forbit North Carolina from firing on Fort Sumter.
“The three-fifths compromise was an agreement reached by the state delegates at the 1787 Constitutional Convention. Under the compromise, every enslaved American would be counted as three-fifths of a person for taxation and representation purposes. This agreement gave the Southern states more electoral power than they would have had if the enslaved population had been ignored entirely.”
So it was added to appease the Democratically controlled states that were slave owners.
It was abolished by the 14th and two other amendments in 1868:
“The Fourteenth Amendment was one of three amendments passed during the Reconstruction era, all of which aimed to abolish slavery and establish civil rights for black”
That man was my gg grandfather.
Your statement confirms that slavery was enshrined in the United States Constitution, something that you seemed to be unaware of earlier.
If - and I say if - Lincoln took up arms to violently overthrow constitutional slavery, he was taking up arms to violently overthrow the United States Constitution.
There is evidence Lincoln did just that - but also contradictory evidence that Lincoln and his auxiliaries fought mostly for economic and political goals.
The fact is, we may never know the real reason Lincoln attacked the South.
If North Carolina hadn't fired, South Carolina would have.
Interesting and that you know. My family didn’t get here
until the late 1800s. English/Irish
The records of when William C. Grace arriving in America are unknown but in his obituary it states that “As a member of the 4th. United States Artillery he served in the capacity of hospital steward on the frontier in 1850’’
He was just 19 years old. The family record goes to say he
‘’served at Ft. Sill in the Oklahoma Territory’’.
Jake must really hate Democrats.
“They fought a war to defend slavery, yes they damn well did and don’t try and convince me other wise.”
At least you are open minded. /S
James L Petigru correctly said, “South Carolina is too small for a republic and too large for a lunatic asylum!”
So does the dem at the end of your uswe id sand for Democrat?
I think I know what you asked, but I'm not sure.
My ID pays homage to the Father of the Declaration of Independence - Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson founded the Democratic-Republican Party, also known as the Republican Party.
Thomas Jefferson was a staunch advocate of American republicanism. That is what is meant by Jeffersonian democrat.
Look it up.
Thomas Jefferson in his notes explained the elimination of the philippic in this way: “The clause too, reprobating the enslaving the inhabitants of Africa, was struck out in complaisance to South Carolina and Georgia, who had never attempted to restrain the importation of slaves, and who on the contrary still wished to continue it. Our Northern brethren also I believe felt a little tender under those censures; for tho’ their people have very few slaves themselves yet they had been pretty considerable carriers of them to others.”
At the time of the DOI the slave states were: New York, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, and Rhode Island.
North and South Carolina, Georgia, and Virginia were also slave states.
My reading of the admittedly imperfect and incomplete historical evidence is that Jefferson Davis spurred South Carolina to attack Ft. Sumter. Why then did Lincoln not surrender the garrison so as to avoid any basis for the attack? Lincoln knew that some other pretext could and would likely be found by Davis and the Confederacy or by abolitionist hotheads from the North.
Having the Confederacy begin the war as it chose to meant that Lincoln and the federal government held the moral and constitutional high ground and could retain for the Union the border states of Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri (and after 1863, the new state of West Virginia). This deprived the Confederacy of the critical mass to succeed while assuring eventual Union victory. As Lincoln commented, "I hope to have God on my side, but I must have Kentucky."
The better choice for the eventual Confederate states would have been to jointly declare that they would use all means available to avoid any effort by the federal government to undo slavery. In effect, the slave states would have threatened secession and civil war without actually seceding and starting a civil war. Keeping their representation in Congress, such an alliance of slave states would have crippled the Lincoln administration and any effort at abolition.
Meanwhile, the slave states could have begun more closely cooperating politically and improving their capacity to make war. As I have suggested, with some political compromise and moral humility, even with an ongoing threat of secession, the country could have avoided the Civil War while assuring that slavery would have been peacefully reformed and then abandoned voluntarily by the end of the 19th Century for compelling economic reasons. With the immense financial and human cost of the Civil War avoided, the country would be better off and the lot of the emancipated slaves and their descendants much better still.
This should have the supp the support of the Nikki Haley wing of the GOP and other virtue signalers. Civil War threads here have a regular crew of them.
Nikki Haley and other imports from the land of the caste system have no affection for America’s past and definitely not the South. It’s just a prop for virtue signaling. They will join the Left’s move to demonize history if they see personal benefit in it. And they have. Dinesh D’Souza played a related race game back in the 1990s, wrecking the career of Sam Francis. Before the internet, so few remember. Now he’s a “hero”.
Unfortunately the Democratic party has changed drastically since the 50s when they were actually the working man’s party. The Republicans are no longer the party of the wealthy donors like they were back then. Both parties in Congre$$ are now mostly members of the DC Swamp only interested in preserving the Swamp.
I won’t be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...
I agree with you. Well said.
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