Posted on 01/09/2022 8:16:11 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
CNN anchor Jake Tapper said Sunday on his show “State of the Union” that the statues of Confederate leaders in Congress are “tributes to traders” that honor political violence like the events of January 6, 2021.
Tapper said, “On Thursday night, the one-year anniversary of the attack on the U.S. Capitol, CNN hosted an event at the Capitol to talk about that horrible day.”
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“Please point where that is enshrined in the Constitution.”
Article I.
“…I hate the Confederacy..”
What you hate is beside the point.
Says you. Pull the damn Confederate statues down. There aren’t monuments to Hitler or Hermann Goering in Germany.
Statues venerating treasonous southern Democrats who launched the bloodiest war in this nations history.
What are you defending it for?
If I had been around in the 1770’s, the British would have considered me a traitor and hanged me for treason if they caught me.
What about you? Which side of that bloody rebellion would you have been on?
Never mind - I can guess.
I’d have been shooting the shit out of the Limey bastards. I’ve said here many times I’m not too fond of the Brits.
Truth be told I don’t like them period.
Arrogant bastards is all they are and for what they did to my ancestral people, the Irish.
Well, those traitors were Democrats.
Glad to hear it.
But don’t forget - this country was born out of a bloody rebellion. Our side were called traitors and blamed for needlessly starting the war.
You hate the Confederacy - fine.
But my question is - when you hate something that much - how much power are you willing to give your central government to stomp out something you hate?
After the twin towers went down Americans hated Islamic Terrorism. So we gave the federal government new powers - the Patriot Act, etc.. Now those powers are being used to target MAGA patriots as domestic terrorists.
No matter how much we hate something - and no matter how justified we think that hatred is - we can’t keep making the mistake of empowering the central government, giving up our liberties - for protection from what we hate or fear.
That road leads to tyranny.
Please. The South felt it was perfectly fine to own , buy and sell another human being after the practice had been ended in the North. They fought a war to defend slavery, yes they damn well did and don’t try and convince me other wise.
And from what I gather your subtext here is that was what “Lincoln The Dictator’’ was attempting to do.
I’ve been down this road a zillion times with the Lost Causers here.
Don’t tell me you’re one of them.
Yes they were.
So what section are you talking about.
“So what section are you talking about.”
Section 2, “. . . whole Number of free Persons . . . three fifths of all other Persons.”
Words have meaning.
The South responded to Lincoln's skillful use of the U.S. Navy to provoke the Gulf of Tonkin Incident - err, I mean the Fort Sumter Incident. Let's set that aside.
When you write about the “North's position” - what position was that?
With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan -- to do all which may achieve and cherish a just, and a lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations. - A Lincoln.
With Jake it's with malice for all and charity for none. And do not bind up the nations wounds, but reopen them.
That is an interesting comment.
Dwight Eisenhower had to deal with your kind of hatred in his career. In what we call WWII, Eisenhower was General of the Army (5-star rank) and Supreme Allied Commander, which means he was kind of important in the military. He also served as the 34th President - but don't let his credentials influence you.
Here's what he had to say about the chief Confederate.
Dear Dr. Scott:
Respecting your August 1 inquiry calling attention to my often expressed admiration for General Robert E. Lee, I would say, first, that we need to understand that at the time of the War between the States the issue of secession had remained unresolved for more than 70 years. Men of probity, character, public standing and unquestioned loyalty, both North and South, had disagreed over this issue as a matter of principle from the day our Constitution was adopted.
General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was a poised and inspiring leader, true to the high trust reposed in him by millions of his fellow citizens; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his faith in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history.
From deep conviction, I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee's calibre would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the Nation's wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.
Such are the reasons that I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall.
Sincerely,
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Foolishly, the new Confederate states and government backed the attack on Fort Sumter. Calling the routine resupply of Fort Sumter a provocation quite misses the point that the South was spoiling for a fight. They falsely believed that the North had neither the stomach nor the capacity for a fight.
I’m supposed to venerate Lee because Eisenhower had a high opinion of him?
Why don’t you shut the f**k up unless I’m rattling your cage Reb. I haven’t been doing that lately and don’t want to engage you.
You’re an idiot.
Amen to that. You know the history.
Political violence like Antifa? Or communist propaganda outlets like CNN?
Seven generations of Americans have venerated Lee, including the magnificent Eisenhower. I thought you might share their love of country, love of history, and love of truth.
Perhaps it was you, or just someone like you, that famously said: the election of Barack Obama was the first time they were proud of their country?
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