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SCOTUS Oral Argument Audio (Vaccine Mandates) LIVE THREAD [2nd case starts at reply 279]
SCOTUS ^ | 01/07/2022 | SCOTUS

Posted on 01/07/2022 6:16:44 AM PST by TexasGurl24

Two cases will be argued today beginning at 10.

National Federation of Independent Business v. Department of Labor (OSHA Mandate)

and Biden v. Missouri (Healthcare mandate)

Audio here:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/live.aspx


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cms; covid; healthcare; ivermectin; mandates; osha; scotus; vaccine; wuhanflu
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To: House Atreides

Breyer sounds absolutely PANICKED! He is obviously afraid to walk outdoors because COVID cases are EVERYWHERE! These bastards believe everything MSNBC pumps out.


41 posted on 01/07/2022 7:21:20 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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Great question by Alito, he is also clearly on our side.


42 posted on 01/07/2022 7:21:49 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: TexasGurl24

Gorsuch just offered two supportive questions: is the statute ambiguous and why should the court offer an immediate stay of the rule.


43 posted on 01/07/2022 7:21:57 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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Running count:

Roberts, Breyer, Kagan and Sotomayor are going to rule in favor of the mandate.

Gorsuch, Alito and Thomas seem to be on our side.

Still nothing from Barrett and Kavanaugh.


44 posted on 01/07/2022 7:23:01 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: TexasGurl24

The audio is out... errrr


45 posted on 01/07/2022 7:24:37 AM PST by DEPcom (Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules)
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To: TexasGurl24

I can’t hear Sotomoyor on Foxnews.com live stream


46 posted on 01/07/2022 7:24:53 AM PST by sopo
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
Did Roberts just say that OSHA could ban workers from the work place?

That's the way I heard it.

I don't think this is going to go the way we want.

47 posted on 01/07/2022 7:25:13 AM PST by CAluvdubya (<---has now left CA for NV, where God/guns have not been outlawed! She's done and he's won!)
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To: TexasGurl24

Why in the hell didn’t the lawyers on our side simply state that VACCINATED people are STILL getting sick and spreading the virus, I have been SCREAMING at the TV!!! WTH???


48 posted on 01/07/2022 7:27:01 AM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: CAluvdubya

I do not follow Sotmajor on there is no mandate.


49 posted on 01/07/2022 7:27:27 AM PST by DEPcom (Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules)
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To: TexasGurl24

Thank you for posting

Roberts is useless
If vaccines are meant to prevent spreading illness in workplace & both vax/unvax are getting sick..then mandates don’t work, nor do the vaccines.
This should be a slam dunk decision.


50 posted on 01/07/2022 7:28:04 AM PST by rainee (Trump won! )
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To: TexasGurl24

Our Government is OWNED by the

pharmaceutical industry.

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51 posted on 01/07/2022 7:28:32 AM PST by infool7 (Society has now operated for decades under the (false)base premise that the world is overpopulated?)
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Why in the hell didn’t the lawyers on our side simply state that VACCINATED people are STILL getting sick and spreading the virus, I have been SCREAMING at the TV!!! WTH???

I'm guessing it's because the argument is about OSHA's power in all this.

52 posted on 01/07/2022 7:28:51 AM PST by CAluvdubya (<---has now left CA for NV, where God/guns have not been outlawed! She's done and he's won!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

At least 2 are STRONGLY for OSHA having this power. Breyer and Sotomayor.

Sotomayor just said “how is a hiuman spewing virus not like a machine spewing sparks”? IOW, all communicable disease issues are in OSHA scope.

Kagan is likewise for OSHA having this power - and she says OSHA is politically accountable.

I won’t be surprised if SCOTUS comes down in favor of the government.


53 posted on 01/07/2022 7:30:45 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: TexasGurl24

Since common sense seems to make no difference to out legal system these days... will it matter that the “side effects” from the vaccines are often much worse than the pathogen that they are supposedly helping with?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/if-you-dont-have-covid-vaccine-side-effects-are-you-still-protected/

To add insult to injury... none of the vaccines actually help prevent omicron from being caught or transmitted or help against its very minor symptoms.

https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/with-omicron-negative-efficacy-like


54 posted on 01/07/2022 7:31:31 AM PST by fireman15
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To: CAluvdubya

Sotomoyor just absurdly stated that OSHA is more politically accountable than congress or the states!


55 posted on 01/07/2022 7:31:41 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: TexasGurl24

PUBLICLY ACCOUNTABLE

OH YEAH!

Freudian slip.

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56 posted on 01/07/2022 7:31:42 AM PST by infool7 (Society has now operated for decades under the (false)base premise that the world is overpopulated?)
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To: rainee

Kagan sucking up to Robert’s general argument about political accountabilty.


57 posted on 01/07/2022 7:32:16 AM PST by sopo
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Sotomayor is all emotion. She’s going to rule on how she ‘feeels’. UGH.


58 posted on 01/07/2022 7:33:19 AM PST by CAluvdubya (<---has now left CA for NV, where God/guns have not been outlawed! She's done and he's won!)
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To: CAluvdubya

If the Supreme Court was held in Georgia, and the justices could walk around without masks and around unvaccinated people freely every day, they’d KNOW COVID isn’t a universal death sentence. But it is in Washington DC where all their friends and associates live in daily terror of COVID and dying.

I’ve met people like that in Arizona. One guy was afraid to walk his dog because he might catch COVID....from a COVID asteroid strike? The fear porn of COVID, 24/7 for two years, particularly in places like Washington DC...too many justices ARE immersed daily in COVID fear. BLIND fear.

I have a very bad feeling about how they are going to rule. Thomas will be great of course but....


59 posted on 01/07/2022 7:33:22 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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Kavanaugh’s question is good, it’s hard to read his position, he’s definitely asking what needs to be asked to strike this down.


60 posted on 01/07/2022 7:34:16 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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