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Europe ‘can eradicate energy poverty’ by quitting fossil fuels: EU official
www.euractiv.com ^ | 12/22/2021 | Frederic Simon

Posted on 01/02/2022 9:17:04 AM PST by rktman

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To: rktman

And w t f is ‘energy poverty’?
omfg


21 posted on 01/02/2022 9:32:47 AM PST by cranked
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To: Libloather

Psssssttttt! Hey ‘eu’. The “climate” doesn’t give two craps what you do. In fact, the “climate” doesn’t care about anything.


22 posted on 01/02/2022 9:33:42 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: rktman
“eradicate energy poverty” once and for all,

Will work as well as LBJ's programs to eradicate poverty once and for all.

23 posted on 01/02/2022 9:39:35 AM PST by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: rktman

These people don’t really want green energy — they want the wealth that green energy investments will produce for them and their elite friends. But, in order to grow a new industry, you have to kill or cripple the old industry. So, they convince enough people that they have to adopt these new industries to stop climate change, while they laugh all the way to the bank.

The same goes for plant-based meats. That’s why Bill Gates, China and others are buying lots of farmland. They are hedging their bets on the alternative meat industry (grown here, processed in China), but in order to establish and grow that industry you have to kill the old meat industry (i.e. cow farts are bad for the planet!). It will take a massive amount of land to grow enough plant-based food to produce marketable quantities of fake meat.

And it’s all for the sake of saving the planet, of course... but there are plenty of wealthy elites who won’t mind becoming trillionaires along the way.


24 posted on 01/02/2022 9:39:42 AM PST by AnglePark
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The purpose of these sorts of statements coming out of the EU is specifically to nudge the European public to 1) accept the so-called “green pass” for medical reasons, then 2) add "climate change" requirements for individuals, such as use and purchase and scaling back of fuel use, and then link all to 3) banking so as to corral individuals into the collective by nudging and then by force.
25 posted on 01/02/2022 9:40:24 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: servantboy777

There used to be a meme floating around here for those sentiments.


26 posted on 01/02/2022 9:43:05 AM PST by bigfootbob (ALL Biden VOTERS have BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS….Ann Archy)
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To: rktman

You can cure a headache if you hit yourself hard enough.

That is their ‘logic’.


27 posted on 01/02/2022 9:47:48 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: rktman

The world is starting to look like one mentally ill facility.


28 posted on 01/02/2022 9:53:03 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: rktman

Good.. go for it!

I’ll watch while I heat and cook using oil, coal, and natural gas. And, fill up on gasoline!

Let me know how you make out.


29 posted on 01/02/2022 9:53:36 AM PST by Keen-Minded
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To: Keen-Minded

How about some whale oil as well? That should send them over the edge.

😂


30 posted on 01/02/2022 10:02:18 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: windsorknot
— “Europe could eradicate the EU.”

I'd suggest it is already underway. Cracks are showing, as the supra-nationalists are so over-reaching that things will come to a head. Let's keep our hopes up on this, and watch.

31 posted on 01/02/2022 10:03:24 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: rktman

“The stoopidness is never ending.”

The cure for energy poverty, they propose, are more expensive energy sources.

If its not comedy, its a tragedy


32 posted on 01/02/2022 10:05:14 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: rktman

“if people are not dependent on fossil fuels, we will not have energy poverty”

And if people were not dependent on food, we would not have hunger.

Why is it the most stupid people get elected all over the world? How can it be that Putin is the most reasonable and sensible politician in the entire world?


33 posted on 01/02/2022 10:09:47 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: packagingguy

Even without fusion energy, there are several options that are not now being considered or applied.

The Plasma Arc Waste Destruction System’s (PAWDS) is used to destroy waste on board ships. The Plasma Resource Recovery System (PRRS) is used to recover energy and produce a vitrified rock from waste on land.

It takes a considerable amount of energy to ignite a plasma arc, but once in operation, the main fire is in the 5,000 degrees Centigrade range, enough to essentially strip off all the electrons in the outer shell of every molecule of any element that is fed into that plasma arc. This sets up a number of reactions, but ALL carbon compounds, with the presence of water vapor, are essentially turned into diatomic hydrogen and carbon monoxide, both of which are excellent fuels for burning in the presence of oxygen. These fuels are then used to fire a conventional power generation system, which is then used in part to maintain the plasma arc. A properly set up system returns about six units of generated electricity power for each unit consumed to maintain the plasma arc. The feedstock, which can be taken from ANY trash which has been ground into small enough fragments, is destroyed when it passes through the plasma arc. The products are the syngas and a vitreous slag, which drops to the bottom of the retort. The vitreous slag, which is molten, can be drained on a continuous basis from the bottom of the plasma chamber, and either used as is for a building material, or as an ore from which the recovery of various metals may also be accomplished. All the sulfides, halides (fluorine, chlorine, bromine, iodine, and astatine), phosphides, and other non-metals are bound up with either metallic elements, and are in a silicate rock, or with the silicon oxide itself. The carbon monoxide and hydrogen mixture is used to drive a conventional steam power generator, leaving no fly ash or residual carbon monoxide, the only products being water as vapor and carbon dioxide, an important constituent of our atmosphere.

An alternative would be to go to thorium-fueled molten salt reactors, which use thorium rather than uranium as its “fuel”. Thorium, when its purpose as a fuel is exhausted, does not produce plutonium in its wake, and the “ash” from spent thorium fuel degrades in its radioactivity rather quickly, unlike uranium, which can take 10,000 years to be safe to approach. Thorium-based atomic reactors need a small amount of “spent” uranium fuel rod material to initiate the fission reaction in thorium, which does not spontaneously initiate fission, but does continue once the chain reaction is started.

Both of these systems use technology we have available right now, but there is little will to put them into practice. Both are green, in the sense they do not affect the presence of airborne or waterborne pollutants, and once in operation, the cost per unit of electricity produced is much lower than even most “fossil-fuel” power plants.

And a WAY lot less than solar or wind power, which are only marginal at best, and not at all reliable.


34 posted on 01/02/2022 10:25:15 AM PST by alloysteel (There are folks running the government who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches - Will Rogers)
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To: rktman

And their energy is going to come from where exactly?


35 posted on 01/02/2022 10:38:42 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: rktman

I am so glad we have a wonderful catalyst wood stove and many acres of trees.


36 posted on 01/02/2022 10:39:32 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: rktman

So they really didn’t need or want the Russian natural gas pipelines?


37 posted on 01/02/2022 10:54:22 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: rktman

NUTS!


38 posted on 01/02/2022 11:37:09 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: alloysteel

I saw a lot about the thorium cycle. Apparently the Indians have worked a lot on it. Australia, India and the US have the largest reserves.


39 posted on 01/02/2022 11:40:26 AM PST by packagingguy
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To: rktman

Everything is possible in The Windmills of Your Mind.


40 posted on 01/02/2022 11:46:47 AM PST by windsorknot
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