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To: ocrp1982

Besides wild eyed spittle flying at the screen, what’s your point? That market forces won’t eventually go to EVs? They’re growing rapidly every year and will replace gas cars entirely in 10 year unless something drastic changes.


8 posted on 12/27/2021 11:20:27 PM PST by Houserino
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To: Houserino
That market forces won’t eventually go to EVs?

I guess we'll never know.

9 posted on 12/27/2021 11:32:41 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Houserino

EVs may replace gas cars in highly urban European areas, and may even be suitable for some settled parts of Europe, but I doubt they will ever replace cars in America’s rural and surburban areas.

American farms are gas-powered. Equipment is gas powered. On the left, living off-grid is a competing fashion and high utility bills were a motivator for their lifestyle - Most off-grid solar setups barely power a house, much less a work vehicle used every day and a house. And a generator is a necessity in the winter. Both left and right, rural folk may drive an hour or more to get groceries or go to a job or visit family. Gas and propane enables the American lifestyle.

Speculative stocks may be hot, but even over a 20 year span, there’ll be no cost savings to the consumer. Calif is a prime example of how electric bills did not fall to practically nothing with the addition of solar and wind. They bills are higher than ever. Add in demand for hundreds of thousands of EVs in each sector that the grid can’t handle. We need to stop chasing European fads and pay more attention to how America runs, and it runs on gas, which, without the fed and state government boot on price and availability, is cheap and plentiful and doesn’t need replacing as an energy source in spite of the Gretas of the world.


30 posted on 12/28/2021 1:23:59 AM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Houserino

Where are you going to get the electricity to charge 50 million EVs?


39 posted on 12/28/2021 3:59:58 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Houserino
People who argue that EVs cannot ever achieve dominance over combustion engines succumb to the fallacy that the EVs of the future are the EVs of today.

Compare to a personal cellphone back in the mid-1990s. If you could go back in time to 1995 and tell people that these hand-held "bricks" would very soon disrupt virtually every industry and become your main source for information, banking, shopping, entertainment, photography, movie-making, navigation and controlling appliances in your home (among many other things), they would simply not believe you.

"Where would the bandwidth for all that come from?" they might ask, just as critics of EVs today wonder where will all the "bandwidth" (electricity) will come from to charge up all these electric vehicles. They will point to the relative dearth of EV charging stations, scoff at the "mileage" we get today from these things, and write the whole enterprise off.

Not realizing that many of the brightest engineers in the world are currently putting their minds to increasing the capability of EVs by leaps and bounds.

Just as it was hard to imagine in 1995 that in just a decade or two, your "cellphone" would be holding all your data and photos, streaming all your music and video, as well as conducting nearly all your financial transactions, it is just as hard to imagine today that in a decade or two, EVs will charge up in minutes, have all the bells and whistles of your luxury cars today and will get up to 1,000 miles between charges.

The EVs of 10-20 years from now will look nothing like the EVs of today. In fact, the EVs of today will look prehistoric, like the Blackberries, the iPods, and the compact disc players look to us today - and that were so cutting edge just 20 years ago.

As impressive as a Tesla vehicle might look today, in a decade or so, it will resemble how a 486-based computer running Windows 3.1 and DOS looks to us today.

The government can put in all the silly "feel-good" mandates on EVs they want but it will be private industry that will propel EVs to market dominance. Tesla is about to have a lot more company in the EV space.

Competition is good.

91 posted on 12/28/2021 6:46:51 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 57 days away from outliving John Hughes)
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To: Houserino

ocrp1982 gave an accurate assessment of the totalitarian agenda unfolding before our eyes.


103 posted on 12/28/2021 7:00:53 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Houserino

Wow, you really ARE the House RINO. Welcome to FR. May your stay be short but memorable.


153 posted on 12/28/2021 9:24:08 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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