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Hyundai Allegedly Closes Its Combustion Engine Development Center
motor1 via msn ^ | 27 December 2021 | Christopher Smith

Posted on 12/27/2021 10:32:18 PM PST by blueplum

The current crop of engines will apparently be Hyundai's final fuel burners.

The electric push is on as manufacturers race to position themselves for an EV future. Many companies have made verbal commitments to going all-electric, but Hyundai could be taking a bold step by ending the development of future internal combustion engines right now.

That's the word in a report from Business Korea. In an article that dropped just before Christmas, the report claims Hyundai Motor Group officially cut its engine development department at the company's Namyang Research Institute south of Seoul. The report also states the automaker's powertrain group was reorganized into an electrification development team, and that a battery development group....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automotive; combustionengines; electric; epa; hyundai; painatthepump; waronoil
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To: Houserino

Madness. Buy airline stock. They are the big winner. Any trip over 300 miles will have to be by air. Rental car companies will benefit too.


41 posted on 12/28/2021 4:18:36 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Houserino
I’m hoping it’ll be a free market movement to EVs. So far it seems to be.

You are on drugs.

42 posted on 12/28/2021 4:19:33 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Houserino

“I’m hoping it’ll be a free market movement to EVs. So far it seems to be.”

Are you really that clueless??


43 posted on 12/28/2021 4:19:59 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: central_va

I’m going very long term. Star Trek transporters are the answer! Get in now!


44 posted on 12/28/2021 4:20:10 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Serpentine...Serpentine...)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Notice how the big problem, long recharge times, in never talked about. They always brag about range.


45 posted on 12/28/2021 4:21:42 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Houserino

100k miles is nothing a car company should brag about


46 posted on 12/28/2021 4:28:51 AM PST by wejjr235
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian

Not their problem. They’ll drive EVs, the peasantry won’t drive.


47 posted on 12/28/2021 4:30:57 AM PST by fluorescence
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To: blueplum

So ... what happens to all those 10 year / 100,000 mile warranties for gas powered cars sold in 2029?


48 posted on 12/28/2021 4:31:25 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: blueplum

Deep State really, really doesn’t like us driving, do they...


49 posted on 12/28/2021 4:31:52 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: The Free Engineer
They need to charge from the road while moving. Companies are working on this.

Did you ever think about how expensive that would be to implement and maintain on a country-wide basis? And you would still need to greatly enhance the generation capacity that would feed the roads. A reduced capacity in-car battery would only be practical after the road rebuilding program was well underway.

How long are today's roads left to deteriorate before they get a quick skim and resurface only to be dug up within a year or two to get to the rotting pipes below the road?

50 posted on 12/28/2021 4:34:24 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Der impfstoff macht frei. The vaccine will make you free. Your papers, please.)
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To: Fresh Wind
How long are today's roads left to deteriorate before they get a quick skim and resurface only to be dug up within a year or two to get to the rotting pipes below the road?

A complete non-starter (pun intended) in the Northeast.

They are going to need to figure out Tesla's (the man's) secret sauce for his self claimed ability to transmit power wirelessly. But smart people who have looked into it have so far found no "there" there.

51 posted on 12/28/2021 4:40:32 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Sirius Lee
Yeah, Tesla's wireless electricity scheme was a crazy pipe dream. But who would need that anyway once home-based "free energy" machines are no longer suppressed by the electric companies?

What they're talking about is a scaled up version of a wireless charging pad for a phone, so that means huge coils under the road surface, and a similar huge coil under the vehicle. It does work, but it would have to be paid for by vast numbers of printing-press dollars from Uncle Sugar and it would cause endless traffic disruption while the roads are rebuilt.

Note that wireless phone charging always take longer than a direct connection.

What you would see is people slowing down, or even stopping, when they realize that they're getting a charge from the road. Even more traffic congestion would result.

Robert Heinlein suggested a different approach in his 1940 story, The Roads Must Roll".

52 posted on 12/28/2021 5:10:40 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Der impfstoff macht frei. The vaccine will make you free. Your papers, please.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Sorry, bad link...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Roads_Must_Roll


53 posted on 12/28/2021 5:15:13 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Der impfstoff macht frei. The vaccine will make you free. Your papers, please.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I want to pull up and lock onto a kiosk which swaps the battery in a minute.

And even that “solution” to the recharging problem is a non-starter. Who wants to spend an exorbitant amount of money on an EV, only to have to constantly swap the single most expensive part for one of unknown quality and condition?

The EV mania is agenda-driven mass psychosis. Elon Musk has said that converting entirely to EVs would require DOUBLING the capacity of the power grid, and others have estimated that it would have to be TRIPLED. Anyone who seriously believes that a total EV switchover can or will happen in our lifetimes, stand on your head. For one thing, the very same “environmentally conscious” people pushing EVs are the same people who adamantly oppose building more power plants or transmission lines. And no, we’re never going to be able to generate the needed power with windmills and solar panels, not to mention the storage problem. Also, an endless array of essential products are made from gas and petroleum-derived hydrocarbons (including a ton of the parts on that magical Tesla). Eliminating the use of petroleum for fuel will only drive up the cost of all those products manufactured from it.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows this whole thing is a fantasy.

54 posted on 12/28/2021 5:35:02 AM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: jpsb

Where are you going to get the electricity to charge 50 million EVs?
+++++++++++++++++++++++
People really don’t get it do they? They really think the electrons just come out of the wall. I don’t care how you power your vehicle. Some things are not up for debate. Follow the “Science”. Power is required to create shaft torque to move mass (vehicle).

Power comes from:
- chemical energy released from the fuel in your gas tank
- chemical energy in the coal used to put power on the grid - chemical energy in the various forms of uranium (nuclear) used to put power on the grid

Wind and Solar are a joke. How is that going to work on airplanes?

The bottom line is a SOURCE of energy is still REQUIRED to make POWER. All this EV nonsense is just talk about ENERGY conversion methods.


55 posted on 12/28/2021 5:35:31 AM PST by mund1011
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To: Glad2bnuts

Right.
Be safe on your daily trip to the convenience store for your smokes and lottery tickets.


56 posted on 12/28/2021 5:38:43 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: jpsb

“Where are you going to get the electricity to charge 50 million EVs?”

From demand. The free market is an amazing thing.


57 posted on 12/28/2021 5:53:44 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: mikelets456
The only thing I don’t like about his car is the 250 mile range...

That in optimum driving conditions. That 250 mile limit drops to approx. 160 miles in northern winter climates.

Here in Michigan where snowmobiling is a winter activity in the northern half of the state, I can't see an EV SUV or truck hauling a trailer with 2 sleds the 250 miles north. And if their destination is in the upper peninsula, forget about it.

And here's another thought, if you're heading north for a weekend of sledding and get caught in a snow storm where the traffic is slowed down to say 30 MPH, you're not going to get that 160 miles on a full charge before you have to stop and recharge.

58 posted on 12/28/2021 6:01:24 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (My favorite word is Tweezer)
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To: Born to Conserve

“Where are you going to get the electricity to charge 50 million EVs?”

From demand. The free market is an amazing thing.
+++++++++++++++++++++++

You avoided the question. The energy source for the electricity is WHAT?


59 posted on 12/28/2021 6:03:35 AM PST by mund1011
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To: Born to Conserve
“Where are you going to get the electricity to charge 50 million EVs?”


60 posted on 12/28/2021 6:05:22 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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