Posted on 12/27/2021 10:32:18 PM PST by blueplum
The current crop of engines will apparently be Hyundai's final fuel burners.
The electric push is on as manufacturers race to position themselves for an EV future. Many companies have made verbal commitments to going all-electric, but Hyundai could be taking a bold step by ending the development of future internal combustion engines right now.
That's the word in a report from Business Korea. In an article that dropped just before Christmas, the report claims Hyundai Motor Group officially cut its engine development department at the company's Namyang Research Institute south of Seoul. The report also states the automaker's powertrain group was reorganized into an electrification development team, and that a battery development group....
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Ok, so there’s a breakthrough. What will it allow us to do that we couldn’t before?
If you have to ask that, you might still be writing with a stick into drying mud. Ha ha.
But seriously, If a EV could go 400 miles on a charge that takes as long as it takes to fill my truck at the same ‘cost’, that would cause a lot of folks to adapt. Cost would be defined by monetary cost, and the environmental cost. I HATE lithium mines. I hate how they are using materials out of the sphere of the US.
I like my pick up. I like my V8. But, in 15 years there isn’t going to be a lot of choice. But, it’s likely I will be dead in 15 years—so, my stance is not one I have a lot of conviction in.
My point is the “advantages” EVs will have over ICE vehicles will be artificially created by the government.
Cui Bono?
Where are you going to get the electricity to charge 50 million EVs?
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Don’t you know about the new ‘negative’ solar cells.
By reversing the circuitry, the cells charge in the dark.
This doubles more than doubles potential electicity.
It has been patented by big-tech, and the IPOs bought up by the elite politicians.
I agree to a point.
It isn’t the US government making to calls though. If you look at the world wide car production, US manufacturers aren’t going to have a choice.
But…I think the only way they get enough inexpensive energy is clean nukes. It will be amusing to watch them twist themselves into pretzels arguing that.
In my opinion, if you zoom out on this issue you will see the US economic power just unraveling at the seams. And, I think most Americans are so disinterested they will never see it coming. (Not YOU, but the folks at the grocery stores not understanding how things work.)
If I lived in Europe in an urban area where you don’t have to drive far, EVs might make sense.
But what happens when the cars are not reliable in cold weather climates, what then? Think of the ramifications on where people live, much as A/C led to mass migrations to the South.
only to be dug up within a year or two to get to the rotting pipes below the road?
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Reminds me of Edison’s efforts to electrify things using DC.
He buried big buss bars, which had to be sized to match the loads. Did not work well.
His competitor, AC (as we know) solved all those problems.
only to have to constantly swap the single most expensive part for one of unknown quality and condition?
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Well, the crews that steal catalytic converters, or stab holes in plastic gas tanks for the fuel, will have to ‘evolve’ to this new tech by stealing the batteries. From the car, or ‘jackpot’, at the storage/swapping station.
Benefit #1 - Less maintenance. No oil changes, no annual tune-ups, less moving parts that can fail.
Benefit #2 - No more stopping at gas stations. I can "fill my car up" at night while I sleep. Whether it be in the garage at home or at a motel on the road.
As stated, I would need at least 600 miles of range for an EV to appeal to me as that is the maximum amount of miles I personally would want to drive in a day. The current state of 200-300 miles of range is unacceptable. I don't want to be one of those guys running low on charge and stressing out over where the next charging station is. I think we will get there eventually but we aren't there yet.
I also reject the argument that an EV is better for the environment as obviously all that electricity has to get generated by conventional means. I would advocate nuclear power plants to help with meeting the energy needs that all these EVs would need.
So unlike others pushing these things, I don't see an EV as an "environmentally" better choice than a conventional gasoline powered vehicle.
Cold weather climate is another hurdle that the EV makers will have to improve upon.
I always stop around 600 miles for the day and rest at a motel
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But, these things can use auto pilot to reduce driver strain and stress, and extend that.
It is less tiring on long drives but still, 600 miles is about my limit in a day. At that point, I've been driving a good 10 hours and now I want to pull off for a steak and a beer - and a good night's sleep.
Wow, you really ARE the House RINO. Welcome to FR. May your stay be short but memorable.
If you don’t see that, you’re a buggy whip salesman around 1905.
***What I see is a newb House RINO already downshifting into insults and trolling. And you don’t even address the point of market share — hybrids vs. EVs. You’re as useless as tits on a bull.
Well if you don’t like the performance improvement I dunno what to tell you.
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Performance can be horsepower and torque, acceleration and top end.
It can also be getting from here to there with the least stress. Like not stopping to recharge, not dodging slower traffic, not dealing with law enforcement.
There you go again, house RINO.
They probably thought the same thing of the scale around 1900 for gas cars,
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Hmmm, just a curious question - What mileage MPG did a 1928 Model A Ford Get?
Guvmint is the biggest force in the market today.
That bodes well for an intermediate market — hot swappable battery kiosks.
I can only imagine what electricity will cost in 10 years in order to carry the transition.
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