Yeah, you know what you're talking about. 
Posted on 12/23/2021 8:15:06 AM PST by chief lee runamok
Donald Trump said Wednesday that people unvaccinated against coronavirus are the ones getting 'very sick' as he pushed back against conservative Candace Owens by claiming all Americans should get the jab while he again took credit for its creation.
'I came up with a vaccine – with three vaccines,' Trump told the Daily Wire host, referring to the development of the Moderna, Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson vaccines while he was still president. 'All are very, very good. Came up with three of them in less than nine months. It was supposed to take five to 12 years.'
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This is a perfect example of how the anti-vax fringe has turned a Constitutional issue (mandates) into a medical one.
Thanks to them, the issue is so muddied we can't begin to predict what the Supremes will do.
I really can't thank this fringe enough. [/s]
Meanwhile...
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I know, but this group of people can turn around on a dime! We have seen it.
All it takes is a couple articles and TV commercials.
This where Trump loses me. Warp Speed is a disaster and long term side effects unknown but will be seen before 2024. If he wants to fall on this sword that is up to him.
I see Trust the Science in a lot of comments.
Science is man-made with a lot of bad assumptions throughout history. Today’s science can be misled by bad or mutilated data.
Example:
The Earth is flat and is the center of the universe. Galileo was deemed a heretic and was put on trial. A person today could lose their job if they disagree with science and refuse the vaccine.
How long before they start imprisoning innocent people for not trusting the Vaccine science?
Has sociality diverted back to the days of Salem Witch Trials?
If we are to trust the Science on the vaccine, should we “The Freerepulic” trust the science on Global warming/Climate Change?
Global Warming/Climate Change is based on bad or mutilated data.
Is the vaccine safety and efficiency based on data bad/mutilated data?
Was the studies short cut in order to get a vaccine out as fast as possible?
Trump is throwing himself under the bus.
We do not believe the hype.
The “vaccines” are not “safe and effective”.
I think the man has to stop watching CNN.
Keep WHAT up??
His assertion that the vaccines are meaningful, that the have helped reduce severity and death ---- and taking them is a personal choice???
Why does this is what have you so bent out of shape?
A close friend got the Pfizer booster three weeks ago, and she's been sick ever since. Says she's sorry now that she got it. She's got COPD, and other health issues, and has to use oxygen. I'm 74, same as her. I have health issues, but not with the respiratory system. She smoked her whole life. I've never smoked...the only one in my family that never did. They were all dead before the age of 74. Three died of lung cancer, one of a massive heart attack (age 51), and the last one of a stroke. I don't know how long I have left on this earth, but I'll take my chances with my own immune system, and not with an unknown, and untested substance some bureaucrat wants to inject into my body.
The PCR swab tests never worked. Nobody knows the number of people who were diagnosed with Covid, that actually had the flu. The efficacy of the shots reported wasn't factual. As far as I'm concerned, I've always felt that the variants were caused by the different vaccines. I believe the clinical trials for the shots is going on now. If it's not, then why would the FDA say it needs 75 years to fully release Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine data to the public? The reason is because they need to wait until the majority of the people who received the Pfizer shot are dead before they release it.
“vaccines are meaningful, that the have helped reduce severity and death”
We will not know the net cost/benefit effect of these medical experiments for many years.
It is very unwise for anyone to rush to judge this—very very unwise.
For President Trump to do so is an unforced error.
Did those of you that are so gung ho on these “vaccines” ever consider the FDA approved OxyContin? How did that turn out for the people who got addicted to Oxy? Fact is none of us how this will turn out since no Long Term Safety studies have been done on any of Big Pharma solutions.
” I decided on January 6th, that I would no longer be a member of the GOP, and won’t be voting ever again until voter fraud is totally eliminated. I’m finished with the party that doesn’t respect me enough to want to protect my ballot from voter fraud. Republicans have been useless for years.”
I’ve been feeling similarly, and am mad as hell those peaceful protesters on Jan 6 were thrown under the bus and left to languish in jail under deplorable conditions. They were there for Trump, and for all intent and purposes he has abandoned them. Little by little he has been losing my support. He was happy to sign the ridiculously bloated Cares Act among other socialistic policies.
He was the right man for his time, but in my opinion that time has past. And unlike the last few elections we now have a viable alternative with DeSantis, who on many levels is a superior candidate to Trump. And who has a better chance of winning with less drama.
LOL!! I like yours better. In actuality, you can't trust anyone, except for your own common sense, if you're lucky to have it.
“The jab makes it less likely you’ll be hospitalized if you get covid: Partial success
The jab makes it less likely that you’ll die if you get covid: Partial success”
I’m not ready to give them this. Their retreat through the stages you laid out (they all started out as gold standard true for whatever reason) has been beaten back with data that has ever-so-reluctantly leaked out. Now we give them partials on these two... simply because we don’t have enough data to give them a fail.
As a society, we’re doing this backwards in my opinion. Every point you laid out should have started out FALSE. Then, as the data rolls in, we could start calling them TRUE.
“Did those of you that are so gung ho on these “vaccines” ever consider the FDA approved OxyContin? How did that turn out for the people who got addicted to Oxy? Fact is none of us how this will turn out since no Long Term Safety studies have been done on any of Big Pharma solutions.”
Ditto
Yeah, you know what you're talking about.
Trump is not speaking the truth. He is sadly mistaken.
Trump was a great President who was responsible for a thriving economy and he did much for personal freedoms. And, yes, I enjoyed his “mean tweets”.
Unfortunately, he is a known Germaphobe. That fact was well known even before he ran for President.
His blind spot regarding germs and viruses will be his downfall.
If he were the candidate in 2022, I would support him. But, I’m on the De Santis train.
De Santis's wife is battling breast cancer, and he has young children. A lot can happen in the next two years. I'm done with the GOP, and voting until voter fraud is totally eliminated. I live in New York State, so it's not as if my vote counts anyway.
“The vaccination is not a 100% guarantee that you won’t get Covid, or even that you won’t die.”
Rhetorical question:
So why do you continue crow like an idiot and use the word ‘vaccination’ when it’s admittedly NOT a vaccine?
This is what’s killing people. People get tested positive for covid and get sent home by their doctor without any effective treatment plan. HCQ, monoclonal antibodies and Ivermectin are ways to fight covid early before you let a person waste away until they need a ventilator to breath.
It’s criminal the way many health providers aren’t trying to treat covid and instead wait for people to become seriously ill.
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