Posted on 12/23/2021 8:15:06 AM PST by chief lee runamok
Donald Trump said Wednesday that people unvaccinated against coronavirus are the ones getting 'very sick' as he pushed back against conservative Candace Owens by claiming all Americans should get the jab while he again took credit for its creation.
'I came up with a vaccine – with three vaccines,' Trump told the Daily Wire host, referring to the development of the Moderna, Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson vaccines while he was still president. 'All are very, very good. Came up with three of them in less than nine months. It was supposed to take five to 12 years.'
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[[“New modelling from public health officials released Thursday shows unvaccinated people are 10 times more likely to be infected and 50 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than someone of the same age who is vaccinated.]]
Weird because the new pill, which basically is ivermectin it is said, reduces hospitalizations by over 90% of the seriously ill it is claimed. But by golly Biden claims it Wil. Be years before people can get it. Ivermectin is available now, but denied to folks, that is how seriously they are co corned about the “lethality” of covid (which is over 99.9% survivsble)
Your post #44 needs to be turned into its own thread and stand alone reference that can be sent wherever possible.
It’s been said by many virologists that the normal time to create a safe and effective vaccine is 7-12 years. Fact.
weekly case & death rates for jurisdictions having more than half the US population:
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status
The data lag is four to seven weeks.
That clinches it for me - DeSantis is the man now. Trump has lost the plot and as we go forward I expect even more will move over to DeSantis who is younger, smarter, and more acceptable to a wider range of people.
“He could be a king-maker if he chooses to set aside his ego.”
It would be easier to separate Siamese twins than for that to happen.
Agree. I don’t care about his stance on the Vaccine as much as his stance on Mandates. I want him to be more forceful and outspoken about his anti mandate stance.
No, President Trump is mis-informed as are you.
Please see Post #44 on this thread.
He’s a killer dancing monkey in a harness on a lead. But still too many Freepers refuse to see it.
so less vaccinated people would die if more unvaccinated were around?? LOL got it. twisted liberal logic.
84% of the population of Maine has been vaxxed, meaning 16% are unvaxxed. .https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/state/maine
So out of 62 deaths, you'd expect only 16% of the deaths to be among the unvaccinated opulation, and 84% among the vaccinated portion of the population. But instead, you're own numbers show that the unvaxxed are dying at a disproportionately high rate of 56% -- more than triple the rate of the much more numerious vaxxed.
The vaccination is not a 100% guarantee that you won't get Covid, or even that you won't die. But the evidence from a bunch of sources is showing that you are less likely to die if you are vaxxed. The exact benefit differs on age group, health status, etc., so that doesn't mean it is right for everyone.
No they are not.
This is EXACTLY my fear, they are laying the groundwork for letting everyone know the dangers of the vaccine and Trump is NOW being thrown under the bus he needs to STFU!! This will come to a full head AFTER it is to late for DeSantis to enter the race!! The blame for the adverse effects of the vaccine will have been placed SOLELY in Trumps hands, the Dems are MASTERS at this!!
“Oppose science”? Really? Have you that much avoided looking deeper into the evidence?
“The CDC is not collecting numbers of dead among the vaccinated. But by all means — prove me wrong.”
All the info is here. It shows all weekly deaths and even shows deaths from Pfizer verus moderna vaccine etc.
If you are unvaccinated you a a 14.9 greater chance of dying than vaccinated.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home
2) He is using his gravitas to push a very unpopular medical treatment. Why, because he sees it as one of his major accomplishments as President. The thing about gravitas, if you take an unpopular position, you waste a lot of it and damage your standing. There are the Trump is "hero worshipers" and there are the Trump is "better then any Democrat" voters. I fall in the later, as do many on this site. While the mRNA injections are unpopular, we gave Trump a pass. He did what he thought was best. Turns out mRNA is the most dangerous injection you can receive and has killed more people than any other injection in history. All Trump had to do was keep his mouth shut and let Biden keep putting his foot in his mouth. But no, Trump's ego forced him to speak out and it is one of his major flaws as a politician.
3) "Vaccine Derangement Syndrome" is a bull$hit comment that is worthy of a RAT politician but I am sure you know that or you would not have used it. mRNA injections are not vaccines because they do not actually vaccinate you. They are therapeutics, similar to your annual flu shot. Smallpox vaccine or Shingles vaccines are actual vaccines that PREVENT you from getting the illness. mRNA therapeutics are hit and miss so far all miss and no hit. If you had the first mRNA injections, you will forever require annual injections (or more often) because the efficacy of the mRNA injections wear off quickly and require constant boosters. Israel, one of the most vaccinate countries in the world is about to mandate their FOURTH mRNA booster injection.
The true issue is about the governments total control over you. If they win this (and I believe POS judges at SCOTUS will give them the win) this is the beginning of government's total control of your healthcare. Including the rationing of healthcare and freedoms to select individuals. You will have even more government agencies like OSHA issuing mandates. Does that sound like freedom to you? Do not follow their dictates lose your Medicare, Social Security, healthcare coverage, jobs, etc.. So take your Vaccine Derangement Syndrome and put it where the sun don't shine.
I oppose the mandates.
I also think these ‘vaccines’ aren’t even vaccines. They are experimental messengerRNA gene therapy sequences. I’m not against vaccines, I’m not an anti-vaxxer. I am against messengerRNA gene therapy sequences being used as ‘vaccines’ because they are not vaccines — at best they are treatments for the disease. They don’t prevent infection nor its spread.
“Science” does not dictate bioweapons for nearly all humanity.
Stuff a sock in it. Anti science? You must have peeled that right off DU.
What I want to know is REALLY how many died OF Covid not WITH Covid!!
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