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Russia demands NATO, US deny Ukraine membership, roll back military deployments
news.yahoo ^ | Fri, December 17, 2021, | news.yahoo

Posted on 12/17/2021 12:37:41 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

Russia is demanding that the U.S. and NATO deny Ukraine membership into the alliance and asking for a rollback in military deployments, according to draft security agreements released Friday.

The Russian Foreign Ministry released two documents that were given to the U.S. during a meeting in Moscow on Wednesday.

In a press release, the ministry said U.S. officials were "given detailed explanations" of the treaties, adding that it hopes Washington will "enter serious talks with Russia in the near future."

A White House official told The Hill, "We are prepared to discuss matters of security and strategic concern with Russia"

"We are having discussions with European allies and partners, and will be in touch with the Russian government on next steps soon," the official said.

The documents come as the U.S. and allies raise alarms about Russia massing tens of thousands of troops near its border with Ukraine, sparking fears of a possible invasion similar to when Moscow annexed Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula in 2014.

Moscow, meanwhile, says it's worried about Ukraine's buildup of troops in the region. Earlier this month, Russian President Vladimir Putin said he would seek "reliable and long-term security guarantees" to prevent any NATO movements that would threaten the region.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; nato; poland; putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine; vladtheimploder
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1 posted on 12/17/2021 12:37:41 PM PST by RomanSoldier19
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Biden will sell out Ukraine and eastern Europe.


2 posted on 12/17/2021 12:43:40 PM PST by rrrod (6)
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Vlad does a buildup. He has to go forward. Just like the after school fight.


3 posted on 12/17/2021 12:45:40 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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to hell with Ukraine. Not our business not our problem.


4 posted on 12/17/2021 1:12:02 PM PST by Manuel OKelley
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To: rrrod

Naturally, chicom puppet is as chicom puppet does.


5 posted on 12/17/2021 1:15:44 PM PST by SrgMcLeod999 (Nam is back now, grateful to all Buddhas and Bodhisattvas fer that.)
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6 posted on 12/17/2021 1:16:21 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Moscow, meanwhile, says it’s worried about Ukraine’s buildup of troops in the region.


That’s rich. Russia wants to attack Ukraine and believes it has a right not to be opposed. “Everyone bow down to Tsar Putin.”


7 posted on 12/17/2021 1:17:03 PM PST by Czech_Occidentalist
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Russia wants to attack Ukraine and believes it has a right not to be opposed. “Everyone bow down to Tsar Putin.”


Not exactly. Russia already invaded Ukraine. Now they are just stirring the pot and gaslighting because Biden is POTUS.


8 posted on 12/17/2021 1:18:20 PM PST by lodi90
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To: RomanSoldier19

I believe NATO membership is a bridge too far, but Ukraine should be given weapons, military training and military intelligence.


9 posted on 12/17/2021 1:22:51 PM PST by Czech_Occidentalist
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Well, I suppose what I said was inaccurate. I should have said Russia wants to attack Ukraine again.


10 posted on 12/17/2021 1:26:18 PM PST by Czech_Occidentalist
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To: RomanSoldier19

Russia is not going to let anything threaten its Sevastapol base. Period. Not under any circumstances. These fools are trying to start a war to replace Afghanistan. This is about keeping the arms industry in clover. Biden and his gang a incredibly stupid to think that Russia will back down


11 posted on 12/17/2021 1:27:47 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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It’s clever gaslighting by the Putinists. Don’t let them get away with it. Cheers.


12 posted on 12/17/2021 1:28:13 PM PST by lodi90
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To: RomanSoldier19

“ Moscow, meanwhile, says it’s worried about Ukraine’s buildup of troops in the region. “

Is Moscow afraid that Ukraine will invade Russia and take it over?


13 posted on 12/17/2021 2:21:20 PM PST by Reynoldo (BurnLootMurder)
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To: Seruzawa
Russia is not going to let anything threaten its Sevastapol base. Period. Not under any circumstances.

Why was threatening? Nothing was happening until the Russkies started massing forces.

14 posted on 12/17/2021 2:52:57 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Seruzawa

“Who” not “Why”***


15 posted on 12/17/2021 2:53:42 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Czech_Occidentalist
but Ukraine should be given weapons, military training and military intelligence.

Not to disagree with you, but this bunch lost 86 billion worth of ordnance in Afghanistan. I wouldn't trust them to get it right this time.

I don't have an answer for this situation.

16 posted on 12/17/2021 3:11:42 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Those are perfectly reasonable requests.


17 posted on 12/17/2021 3:37:42 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Manuel OKelley

Post of the day.

It’s absolutely infuriating how many so-called “Americans” are passionate about the sanctity of Ukraine’s borders. The same Americans couldn’t care less about defending our own borders.

I have no wish to experience a nuclear Holocaust over Ukraine.


18 posted on 12/17/2021 4:31:18 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Bryce Young: 2021 Heisman Trophy winner.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

It’s up to Ukraine to stand up to Russia. And for Europe to back up Ukraine, if they are concerned about Russian encroaching in their backyard. America should stay out. Our leadership is a mess even if we wanted to get involved in the first place.


19 posted on 12/17/2021 4:33:47 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Except Vlad is in his own country, where NATO isn’t.


20 posted on 12/17/2021 5:55:06 PM PST by NorseViking
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