Posted on 12/11/2021 8:24:09 AM PST by george76
This piece of shit should be ridiculed to no end. He’s actually a very shitty swimmer. The media gives him all this acclaim over records, but those records are not Division I NCAA women’s records. They are not American or World records for women. And they are no where near any men’s records or boys for than meter. Yes, I wrote ‘boys’. I looked up Thomas’s 1650 time and he would be lapped by the USA Swimming Age Group record holder for 13-14 year old boys. So ridicule him as a swimmer first since he gets so much attention there and ridicule him as a science denier and his basic intelligence. U Penn should be ridiculed too. I thought they had high academic standards, but they allow science deniers to be enrolled. They support a lie that man can be a woman and in the process hurt women. There really should be a law to punish enablers of this crap.
The truth which dare not speak its name…
I would slug one of those “womyn” as well. They ain’t ladies.
This is what women, by large margins, say that they want. Look at the stats.
“I am woman, hear me roar.”
I would encourage MORE men to do this, in every sport, to highlight the insanity.
Let men run away with the LPGA titles every year. And Don’t let them “handicap” you with a different teeing ground.
Amen. Take away the right for women to vote and this country rights itself so quickly we’d get whiplash.
I wonder how many of these swim team members voted Democrat?
” ... but there is no future in women’s sports going forward, and that is a shame because it teaches values and keeps kids out of trouble.”
Truely a shame. However, my opinion, and that’s all it is, an opinion, is based on my limited experience. I only know 1, that’s singular, one daughter sent away to college who came back with any sort of common sense. Every other case I’m aware of, and it’s numbering in the double digits, daughters came back and were ultra liberal. In many cases, they felt compelled to “educate” their parents and try to show them the error in their less than liberal ways.
The only way this madness ends is if reality hits these people right where it hurts. If there isn’t a ground swell, real outrage over the stupidity, then nothing will change. I feel badly for your struggles, but the only answer is not for a few swimmers to secretly express displeasure. The answer is for women to start rejecting this liberal madness in large numbers. I don’t see that happening, so, yes, I can’t be bothered to care.
“I feel for them. A bunch of lunatics have ruined their sport”
As another poster observed, if those women were asked, I’d wager a significant majority would express support of LGBTQRLMNOP+ rights. While I agree, it’s tragic for them to lose what they’ve worked for, it will continue until/unless they begin to take a stand. Be more vocal, less anonymous. If your school persecutes, find a different school. The leftist administration must be made to feel uncomfortable, or you’ll get more of the same.
I don’t have a dog in this fight. I see the injustice, but I’m not in a position to help. I’ll vote conservative, meanwhile, those that are being harmed by leftist policies will vote Democrat.
Funny.
Maybe maybe not. They are speaking up. Credit is due
Look, men and women are different - you said so yourself. That is a result of sexual dimorphism. We were built for different roles, both physically and psychologically. A traditional family has the man as the head of the household for a damn good reason, as thousands upon thousands of years of human existence have shown. This fact has nothing to do with the man or woman being the more valuable, or one being subservient to the other.
Up until 100 years ago, this was understood universally. But relentless propaganda and commie social engineering (and frankly, modern ease of life) has brainwashed millions into believing that men and women are the same and can fulfill the same roles equally. They cannot, at least not as well, and thinking that somehow the pop garbage of the last 100 years is some kind of enlightenment over all of the rest of human history is both ludicrous and arrogant.
I understand you are earnest you just miss the point.
Traditional family structure is not the only way to live. In fact it squanders the abilities of many women who could be accomplishing & contributing so much more. When talking about the ages when men were the head of the household you neglect the millennia where men dominated women by force because they are bigger & stronger. Sort of like a specialized slavery.
While “traditional roles” suit many people there should be no suggestion that men are the head of household. Households are cooperative efforts. Some households have specialized roles such that women defer to men. Whatever floats their boats.
Equal partnerships with division of tasks & labors according to abilities & inclinations is more equitable IMO and is more honest.
No one should be trying to define from outside how a married couple structures their life together as long as both are accorded the freedoms that every person has under our Constitution & the amendments thereof. The idea that women cannot perform the tasks of citizenship and are illogical is blatantly sexist and easily countered by looking around at the many women scientists, inventors, business owners as well as women running households with children, managing books, homeschooling, activities etc.
It is supremely arrogant to assert otherwise, suggesting you are so insecure you need to discount 50% of the adults in the Country without meeting them or evaluating them (which you might not be competent to do depending on their areas of expertise) just so that you can set yourself up as “in charge of the household”.
It’s a very small minded stance.
Could you please erase post #302 where it calls me a bitch?
Thank you
I find that those men who are the most apt to buy into the interchangeability of men and women tend to be the least different from women. If we assume a spectrum of femininity<->masculinity, there are men who reside physically or psychologically or both, more towards the middle, and others who reside more farther out to the masculine end. To those in the middle, the differences between men and women might not seem that great, and so they are more likely to accept the idea of interchangeability.
But to those who reside way out on the masculine side, the differences between men and women are so stark that it is like comparing two different species.
Speaking for myself, I am so physically different from women (I am a rather large fellow) that there can be no comparison between us. No woman in her right mind would ever assume she could match me physically in ANYTHING.
I am also quite psychologically different from women, being a STEM guy, among other things, and I have never met a woman who thinks anything like I do (by which I mean in the manner that I do) and I have known some really smart women.
So, my view on traditional roles is absolutely informed by the lifelong observable stark differences between the masculine and the feminine, to the point where I have been forced to reject the pop social views of interchangeability, and arrive at a more practical outlook that our forefathers have had since time immemorial. Your perspective, however, may be informed by a different location on that spectrum.
You do make me smile. Why should any woman want to best you physically? That is why women need a sports segment that is only women. Otherwise they would be outclassed and their efforts count for naught.
You are all about the physical differences and I am all about abilities, the mind and character. Women tend to have certain character traits but there is a normal curve as you seem to understand, a spectrum.
My mother was a very feminine woman but she was a mechanical engineer, and a superb draftsman.
Many women found they were able to make contributions during the war. I think it was the entry of women into the business world during the war when they were needed that changed the dynamic of women at home, men at work, not liberalism. Women realized they had aptitudes and could contribute in many ways and that it was fulfilling to develop & use their abilities.
People should be able to use their talents and contribute their efforts to society. The purest joy in the world is to make a difference using your talents, intelligence and grit.
It matters less where you are on a spectrum of traditional manly vs womanly traits, such a scale is flawed because once you move away from physical the classifications are arbitrary and stereotyped. It matters what the gestalt of a person is and how they view themselves & the world.
You are so focused on the differences and not on the similarities. It is wrong to bind people to the bigotry of low expectations. That act has caused most of the problems in our society. That fact is true for men as well as women. One of the most evil effects of the left is the unmanning of America where boys are made to be ashamed of their own natures.
We need people to be allowed to be masculine and to be feminine, to be allowed to strive to fulfill their dreams & ambitions. We need to return to merit and effort based promotions. Women should not be pushed forward if they are not able to do the job, are not able to win it competitively. That is not to say that their sex should block opportunity for there are some women who can excel in typically masculine pursuits. In no way should quota be utilized for sex or for race, that is evil and hurts the institution, the community, the Nation and the individual who is robbed of the triumphs they might have earned and are forever corrupted at the core.
Equality means an equal opportunity to prove yourself by your efforts & drive, to achieve on an equal playing ground, where your efforts not skin color, family connections, sex, or any other quota or factor not based on the job you do and your worth to the company is the measure of your ability to advance.
What stupid pussy hat wearing people have tried to make the word “equality” mean is of no import. It is the raving of lunatics. America does not meet the standard of equality of opportunity but we have made progress (not lately where zealots have pushed a distorted world view) The measure of America’s uniqueness is that we respect equality and strive to create opportunities for all Americans to achieve their dreams by their efforts.
You’re smiling because you obviously only skim my comments rather than read them (admittedly they have gotten a little long, but so have yours). I didn’t focus on the physical differences - I merely used them as one example, equal to the example of psychological differences.
I may not be able to make you see the light, but by golly I’ll get you to understand the concept. So here’s a simple set of questions:
Are you ready to have women register for the draft as combat soldiers, just as likely to get their legs blown off as the men? Are you ready to stop putting women on the lifeboats first when the ship goes down?
I’m willing to bet that your answer is no, whether you want it to be or not. Deep down you recognize the fundamental difference between men and women, but modern propaganda has conditioned you to ignore what you know in your gut.
And perhaps most importantly, those who, by their nature, are held to a lesser accountability, who are cushioned from consequences, are not suited to guide the direction of the country.
No, that was Penn State that had Sandusky. This is Penn.
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