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Russian troops mass on Ukraine's border. West worries this isn't like the last time.
NBC News ^ | Dec. 2, 2021 | Matthew Bodner, Dan De Luce and Alexander Smith

Posted on 12/02/2021 4:11:32 AM PST by McGruff

It is by now a familiar pattern: Russian troops mass near the Ukrainian border, triggering ratcheting rhetoric and jitters across Europe and the United States that war might be imminent, before a flurry of diplomacy calms nerves.

Officials and experts say that this time is different — and there are several clues giving them genuine concern that the current gambit by Russian President Vladimir Putin might be for real, and the start of a conflict that could drag in Europe and even the U.S. itself.

Putin has deployed more than 90,000 troops along Russia’s border with Ukraine, matching the force that he sent and withdrew in the spring. But whereas those troops maneuvered in open daylight, now they have mostly been far less showy, moving under the cover of darkness.

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Whole article worth a read. This may not be a drill.
1 posted on 12/02/2021 4:11:32 AM PST by McGruff
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See the Xiden communists will stick there nose into this one but when China walks into Taiwan they will bend over for Xi.


2 posted on 12/02/2021 4:20:25 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: McGruff

“A day earlier, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg warned Russia would pay a “high price” if it invaded.”

They’ll get a sternly-worded letter from the corrupt UN morons and Bidet’s Blinken idiot. That should frighten Pooty-Poot into retreat.


3 posted on 12/02/2021 4:22:49 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: McGruff

The “world” isn’t going to sit idly while the USA melts down into a 3rd world s-hole...


4 posted on 12/02/2021 4:24:21 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: McGruff
Not to worry here……Gen . Millley will make the phone call.
Nancy has NO worries about the nuke codes with Bramdon?
5 posted on 12/02/2021 4:28:07 AM PST by wardamneagle
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To: McGruff

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6 posted on 12/02/2021 4:30:39 AM PST by sauropod (Meanie Butt Daddy - No you can't)
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To: McGruff

In all of history, when has Russia invaded anyone? It’s never happened. The US can’t even come close to saying that, sadly.


7 posted on 12/02/2021 4:30:52 AM PST by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things!)
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“In all of history, when has Russia invaded anyone? It’s never happened.”

You must mean that in a sarcastic tone. If by some chance you are ignorant of such events, do a Google with “Russia Invades” and a rather long list will crop up. Most notable in recent history is Afghanistan, that was not their latest.


8 posted on 12/02/2021 4:42:51 AM PST by redfreedom (You can vote your way into socialism, but you may have to shoot your way out.)
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To: foundedonpurpose
"...when has Russia invaded anyone? It’s never happened."

Sarcasm, right?

Or we can start the list:
Poland
Finland
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Hungary
Shall we keep going?

9 posted on 12/02/2021 4:45:51 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: foundedonpurpose
In all of history, when has Russia invaded anyone? It’s never happened. The US can’t even come close to saying that, sadly.

Lol, Russia is an empire that constantly invaded in order to expand. Russia has invaded Ukraine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia

10 posted on 12/02/2021 4:51:39 AM PST by tlozo
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To: McGruff
Every major MSM news source is pushing this "troops mass on Ukraine border" story.

There has to be a Hard Left political motive somewhere.

Since no one in the MSM actually cares about Ukraine, why are they obsessively focused on this?

11 posted on 12/02/2021 4:53:34 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: foundedonpurpose

REALLY? I guess we would need your definition of ‘Russia’ and ‘invasion’. I have spoken to several Russians that are convinced taking Crimea was not an invasion - let’s forget once they took the naval base they reflagged the military vessels as Russian from Ukrainian and to state they did not break the treaty they signed in the 90’s with them it had to be cultural Russians as Ukrainian citizens rising up.

A simple internet search if you have no memory of historical events or bothered to pay attention reveals this list:

https://www.quora.com/How-many-countries-had-Russia-invaded-in-its-history?share=1

what is really funny is I typed a search for ‘How many countries had Russia...’ and the search auto-filled the rest!

I will apologize if you meant your comment as sarcasm but it did not come off that way.

The US comment is another matter in your post; some say since the Spanish-American War we have been manipulated (as a people) in some way to support certain actions. My belief is if we had not gone to Korea/VietNam/Middle East it would have been open season since everyone would know the US will just sit back in ‘security’ since it’s not us being attacked. Where we are now is a result of people like Brandon and not standing up for anything; especially on the home front.


12 posted on 12/02/2021 4:57:26 AM PST by linedrive
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To: foundedonpurpose

In all of history, when has Russia invaded anyone? It’s never happened


Guess you missed the end of WWII when Russia is purported to have invaded Germany, Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, Estonia, Czechoslovakia etc.


13 posted on 12/02/2021 5:06:23 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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They even invaded and anexed parts of Mancheria.

That’s why I say Xi is a total fraud and coward. Why doesn’t he demand Russia give back the area of upper Manchuria that Stalin stole from China?


14 posted on 12/02/2021 5:12:40 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Fauci is a murderer)
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To: central_va

I think many out there allies and enemies alike are enjoying our distress. Remember Obama saying we need to be taken down a bit?


15 posted on 12/02/2021 5:18:40 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

They even invaded and annexed parts of Manchuria. That’s why I say Xi is a total fraud and coward. Why doesn’t he demand Russia give back the area of upper Manchuria that Stalin stole from China?

Sort of mixed as parts of what was once Russia are now in China - lots of Russian speakers there.

Emperor Xi does not need or want a repeat of the 1969 border war with Russia.


16 posted on 12/02/2021 5:21:10 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: foundedonpurpose
In all of history, when has Russia invaded anyone? It’s never happened.

Are you serious? How do you think the tsars built their empire?

17 posted on 12/02/2021 5:22:25 AM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: foundedonpurpose

🤦👎


18 posted on 12/02/2021 5:24:29 AM PST by hawkaw
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What does Russia have to fear? About anything?

The former US of A? Our potus is a pedophile, demented and corrupt old fossil who craps in his shorts.

And he's one of the sharper ones in DC.

Nope. Nothing to fear here.

19 posted on 12/02/2021 5:33:44 AM PST by LouAvul (Farewell America. We barely knew you. )
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To: zeestephen

I think the media is hoping for war and the Biden admin to do something they can spin as decisive. It is important to distract attention and news cycle from domestic catastrophes piling up.


20 posted on 12/02/2021 6:28:47 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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