If I'm unarmed and outnumbered by an armed group, who want me to wait for the cops...I'm waiting for the cops!
Let me guess, under the same circumstances, you run at and attack those holding guns....Like Supergirl does!
Posted on 11/24/2021 5:36:25 PM PST by HogsBreath
There were five key arguments the court ruled could not be presented to the 12-juror panel who will decide the fate of the three white men charged They included Arbery's mental health records and criminal history, and the fact that trace amounts of THC were found in his blood after his death The judge also refused evidence claiming Arbery was known as 'The Jogger' because he would jog to convenience stores, and run out with stolen goods
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
If you say so. California, and other States would disagree with you.
“That being said, the jogger running towards the gunman and then attacking and attempting to disarm a man holding a gun is not a reasonable, expected or a normal response to people obviously suspecting you of something, and wanting you to stay put for the cops. What would you do if someone suspected you of shoplifting at bozomart? Attack them?”
The kid was an idiot, but he isn’t the only idiot out there.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the United States “law system” which includes state law, judges, prosecutors, defense counsel, detectives, & jurors.
“I assumed you believed that link showed their rap sheet/criminal record.”
No, I was pointing out that criminal records are generally not private or classified. I found this report on one of the guys Kyle shot. This is from one of the background check websites:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgYlB-EXkAUf1C1.jpg
That’s pretty detailed.
It is "evidence" that is completely irrelevant to what occurred on that particular day. Had zero to do with the case at hand.
“If you say so. California, and other States would disagree with you.”
Okay. I apologize for coming on too strong on my first post. There’s been a ton of what I consider misinformation on the Arbery situation and I was a little fired up. Thanks.
Criminal records are rap sheets. They are a record of a person’s criminal history.
And the link you provided is an overview of an “arrest report.” Not a rap sheet.
LOL!! I hope you "cool down" enough to enjoy your Thanksgiving Dinner.
Doesn’t matter. Those 3 weren’t cops and chased him down the street. They killed him and will rot in prison.
Can you show me attempted burglary on the books?
I think it is not a "privilege" to use deadly force when you are being physically attacked by a man who appears to be intent on killing you, I think it is a right.
And the idea that killing a man who was trying to kill you is "murder" is absurd.
Arbery was an idiot. Moral to this story in my book is don’t wave a shot gun in front of an idiot unless absolutely necessary. There was no need for an civilians to get in armed confrontation here since the bubba fan club has informed us that it was known who Arbery was and that he was potentially armed/violent. Cops could have picked him up later with much less risk.
Yep. I actually posted this to myself and did not include you.
For example, in my state the penal code states:
“664.
Every person who attempts to commit any crime, but fails, or is prevented or intercepted in its perpetration, shall be punished where no provision is made by law for the punishment of those attempts, as follows:”
And your comprehension is about what I expect given your opinion on this case. I specified the assertion that the defendant called him the n-word as he lay on the ground dying. The attorney said he did not do that. I addressed the possibility of racist social media in an earlier post which you clearly must not have read.
Oh sure. Tell me, how'd that work out for him?
That’s right, be a good citizen. Don’t interfere with the criminals, give them what they want.
This is an unreasonable statement. No one suggested that "trespassing" is a "capital offense." No one suggested that any sort of "capital offense" was imposed.
The struggle over the gun got the idiot who grabbed it killed. At the point the struggle occurred, it had nothing to do with "trespassing" or burglary, or any other d@mn thing than the fact that a man had attacked another man who was holding a shotgun. The attempt to conflate his killing with "trespass" or "capital punishment" is dishonest. It was a struggle for life and death between two men and one of them won it.
And now we know Arbery was psychotic and given to spontaneous violent acts, and now we also know he was not only off his meds, he was high on weed.
This information which I just learned from a link posted above now explains why a man would run at, punch, and attempt to disarm a man with a shotgun. He was psychotic.
If I'm unarmed and outnumbered by an armed group, who want me to wait for the cops...I'm waiting for the cops!
Let me guess, under the same circumstances, you run at and attack those holding guns....Like Supergirl does!
I think this is why they use the term "suspect." Often a cop stops someone who they think committed a crime, but for which they do not yet know for sure.
So you know this is the same guy that's been in that house in the middle of the night four or five times in the last few months, and you know a bunch of valuable stuff has been stolen, including a 9mm pistol.
While it could be someone else who has stolen that stuff, it's very likely that this guy is the one doing it because he keeps coming back. You especially know this if you were a police officer that worked cases involving this fellow, which the elder McMichael did.
So there is reasonable suspicion. He is a "suspect." At that point they knew for sure he committed a minor crime, but they didn't know if he had committed a more serious crime, and I think most people would see the probability as being very high that he did.
If you had to have proof before you stopped a suspect, the majority of suspects would never be stopped.
They had probable cause to believe a more serious crime had been committed by this suspect.
100%
Pretty much, yes, that’s how it is now.
I knew when my grandmother was attacked by two “kids” they would never get caught. And even if any of these perpetrators were, they would be out the next day. It’s a revolving door system and these two incidents were years ago. It’s only getting worse, as they grow in number and there is no place or room to hold them. They have strong advocacy groups excusing their criminality.
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