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The "problem" of course is that blacks and Hispanics underperform whites and Asians on all standardized tests. Studies have found that those tests are not biased in the sense of underpredicting the performance of blacks and Hispanics in college.

The article says high school grades will be used. Of course they should be a factor, but grading standard vary across schools. A school where all the student are weak is not going to flunk everyone. Even within a school, teachers' grading standards can vary widely.

1 posted on 11/21/2021 5:50:08 AM PST by karpov
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So I can just walk in and sit down in any class I want? I’m sure the tuition has gone up though.


2 posted on 11/21/2021 5:55:46 AM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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Cheapened college degrees like this are like counterfeit money. By the boat load.


3 posted on 11/21/2021 6:00:01 AM PST by fwdude
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In many high schools grades are a completely useless in evaluating academic achievement and in predicting academic success ... but it’s an essential exercise in futility in a society based on equity instead of equality.


4 posted on 11/21/2021 6:01:01 AM PST by glennaro (Although I don't believe in "big conspiracies", neither do I believe in "big coincidences")
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The un/under qualified crazies have taken over and intend to promote more unqualified to all levels of society.


5 posted on 11/21/2021 6:01:33 AM PST by blam
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How exciting. I always wanted to be a molecular biologist and an ast. BTW 2+2 is racist


6 posted on 11/21/2021 6:03:38 AM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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This is funny. Again California jumps the shark of common sense directly into the morass of educational failure.
The State had such promise 150 years ago.

Liberals are like 3 year olds throwing tantrums. “I want to make everyone the same and everyone who is “of color” better. What does it matter if they can’t do the work? We just won’t have grades anymore. We will just dumb down the curriculum. What does it matter if the school transmits no content as long as the students & graduates can foment disorder and help destroy America.


7 posted on 11/21/2021 6:05:46 AM PST by JayGalt (For evil men to accomplish their purpose it is only necessary that good men should do nothing.”)
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And all the grads get jobs in politics, the media, or the government (the only employers whose standards are low enough to hire them).


8 posted on 11/21/2021 6:07:56 AM PST by Da Coyote
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Evrybody shuod be abel to be a brane surjin!

Or a enjineer! Or a airplain pilot!


9 posted on 11/21/2021 6:10:50 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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lottery... only fair way left


11 posted on 11/21/2021 6:24:01 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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All they’re doing is cheapening the value of a U of C degree. Employers will figure this out in due time, and hold those with such degrees at the correct level of esteem, at least eventually.


14 posted on 11/21/2021 6:39:54 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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America is being dumbed down. Its being transformed into a pliable clog of the new globalist order run by vile elites. Sadly most people are too ignorant to realize how their institutions, liberties and rights are being destroyed.


16 posted on 11/21/2021 6:42:08 AM PST by allendale
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Clarification: They could find no exam blacks could do well on so the exam is the problem and out it goes.


17 posted on 11/21/2021 6:42:40 AM PST by Midwesterner53
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“Biased results”, meaning English, math, and other subject cannot be known to non-whites. Seems a racist statement to me.


18 posted on 11/21/2021 6:43:08 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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Colleges have been going “test optional” for several years now. This isn’t something new. One of my kids had a high test score but no GPA because he never went to high school. But, I know of many other kids who scored low on the SAT and still did well in college - one has a masters now.

Funny how you all go on and on here about this issue. When my kid was applying, one college had a minimum score for honors with a full scholarship, and my kid missed it by 40 points. The very next year, the same college decided to drop the minimum and accept the top test scores into honors with a full ride, and I knew of a kid who scored 110 points below my kid and got in. That was a white kid, by the way. But, hey, life isn’t fair. My kid got a full ride to a different college, anyway.


20 posted on 11/21/2021 6:48:34 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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Next, Cali. must get rid of the state bar exam, CPA exams, engineer certifications, medical board exams, etc., etc. All those also discriminate against the unqualified.


21 posted on 11/21/2021 6:50:25 AM PST by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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U of Texas went to top 5, in addition to traditional SAT/GPA standard. Now the U. of Cal system to GPA only.

U of Texas wound up with LOTS of students in humanities by reason of the top 5 admits who wouldn’t have been admitted by reason of the SAT/GPA standard. This somewhat degraded U of Texas non-math, non-science degrees. On the other hand, it created demand for even more professors in the humanities (most of whom are Marxists). So, no complaint from them.

Shifting to U. of Cal system, they’ve moved to GPA only. This means many average students from average and less-than average high schools will be admitted.

More specifically, at U of Texas, Top 5 admits have a hard time with math and science and, so, shift to the humanities. In the U. of Cal system, many students less than Top 5, but with a high enough GPA within their inferior high school will be admitted. They will have a difficult time even in the humanities.

Will the U. of Cal system weed out these marginal and less than marginal students? Or, will the U. of Cal system markedly degrade its humanities programs to enable these students to graduate? The answer is obvious. The U. of Cal system will do what it has to, to enable an equitable number of disadvantaged students to graduate.

Let’s now shift to average students from the better high schools of California. They will be denied admission to the U. of Cal system. Because grading inevitably reflects the students actually enrolled in a high school, a GPA of “B” in an inferior high school, might be the same as a “C” in a superior high school, and so if “B” is the cut-off, it will favor those attending inferior high schools where grading is easier.

Of course, this is entire Marxist project: to eff the middle class of this country. We know we’re the new n-word. That the elite consider us to be deplorable and irredeemable. That the elite want to take away our single-family homes, our cars, our guns, our fly-away vacations, and relegate us to the status of serfs, we are to be the worker-bees of this country, competing with illegal aliens for dead-end jobs while the elite buy the votes from minorities with more and more cash and free stuff.

Anyway, what will be the recourse will be the average students from the better high schools? My first guess is the Cal State system (e.g., Cal State-Fresno).

My guess is that there will be a surge of demand for more challenging programs in the state’s “second tier” colleges, from good (but not the best) students denied admission to the U. Cal system because of admissions based only on GPA.

And so the overall California system of higher education will become more segregated by race and class. With the first tier (U. Cal system) serving the elite and the minorities, and the second tier (Cal State system) serving the middle-class.

Secondarily, there will be increased demand for private and out-of-state college, and reduced political support for public education.

As public education is transformed from providing a ticket up the socio-economic ladder for children and young adults regardless of their status at birth, into a means for the elite to consolidate their rule, it (public education) will be seen as just another tax on those who work.


22 posted on 11/21/2021 6:54:40 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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Black kid from crappy HS, parents no help.
Busts his butt in school, study’s his arse off and gets TOP SCORES on SAT and ACT.
But is now just seen as another deprived minority.

No standards and low expectation racism hurts minority’s the most and in so many ways.

But white Liberals think they are helping.

Burn It All Down.


25 posted on 11/21/2021 6:57:06 AM PST by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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Don’t waste your money here you’ll get nothing but Brainwashing unless you want to be brainwashed ,LOL


27 posted on 11/21/2021 6:58:33 AM PST by butlerweave
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Follow the money. In many states, those lower in socio-economic status qualify for free college (but not room and board). But sometimes, due to bad grades and poor SAT results, minority students (and whites for that matter) can’t get in. Enrollment in college is also down. How do you increase tuition dollars for overpriced universities? Let more students in, even if they aren’t qualified.

Here in Indiana the SAT (IQ test of what you know) and the ASVAB (the most widely given and accurate IQ test of what a person is able to learn) is a part of the graduation pathway. Schools are shelling out lots of $$$ for prep and testing aps to improve these scores..... And it isn’t working. As Charles Murray and the formerly legitimate APA use to acknowledge, IQ is mostly related your DNA, then the health of your mother prior to, during and after pregnancy, and if there is a father in the household.

The tests aren’t irrelevant. They are very relevant and very accurate. As I tell my psych students:. If you don’t like IQ testing and think it’s inaccurate, then you have to get rid of all psychology.... Bc all of the framework and development of scientific method in psychology comes from the development of IQ testing (aka the most accurate thing in psychology).


28 posted on 11/21/2021 6:59:24 AM PST by GeorgianaCavendish (Man shall not serve two masters, for he will love one and hate the other.)
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The UC system has always been very proud of their top 10 ratings in the college ranking system; Berkeley is often rated the #1 public university in the U.S., with other UCs filling out the rest of the top 10.

There goes that.


29 posted on 11/21/2021 6:59:41 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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