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University of California slams the door on standardized admissions tests, nixing any SAT alternative
Los Angeles Times ^ | November 18, 2021 | Teresa Watanabe

Posted on 11/21/2021 5:50:08 AM PST by karpov

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To: karpov
Never really cared that much about the whole university admissions thing. Generally the truly good to great will get sorted out post-graduation, wherever they went to school.

Life is a big IQ and EQ test, no matter how much other may try to meddle to prevent that.

61 posted on 11/21/2021 8:52:16 AM PST by Clemenza (I have no tolerance for tolerance)
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Democrats come up with new ways every day to convince us that wypipo and asians are supreme in some way. But rather than boosting people up, they tear everybody and everything down


62 posted on 11/21/2021 8:57:41 AM PST by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imaginationd)
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To: karpov

Bob Schaeffer, executive director of FairTest: National Center for Fair & Open Testing. “UC already is and increasingly will become a national model for test-free admissions.”

Knowledge of CRT, gender pronouns, community activism, democrat voting record, and other woke criteria will be used to keep up the highest standard of admission of any college.


63 posted on 11/21/2021 9:04:56 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Clemenza; All

Still its all part of the war on merit ! The radical egalitarian idea that everyone must be exactly equal at all times ! If there’s equal access there must be equal outcomes if there isn’t its racist !(Except in sports somehow that’s exempt !)


64 posted on 11/21/2021 9:06:15 AM PST by Reily
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To: karpov

The answer is elementary. Formulate a SAT test using Ebonics.


65 posted on 11/21/2021 9:09:08 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: karpov

“The “problem” of course is that blacks and Hispanics under perform whites and Asians on all standardized tests. Studies have found that those tests are not biased in the sense of under predicting the performance of blacks and Hispanics in college.

The article says high school grades will be used. Of course they should be a factor, but grading standard vary across schools. A school where all the student are weak is not going to flunk everyone. Even within a school, teachers’ grading standards can vary widely.”

5 years ago one of our DIL’s went from a moderate politically to a strong conservative.

Her daughter/our grand daughter was being graduated from an excellent private Jr/Senior high school. This young woman had made one b in her high school and the rest were A’s

This brilliant young woman wanted to become a RN like her grandmother, an aunt by marriage and an older mentor.

She was basically turned down from California RN schools due to that one B. Our DIL challenged this BS and was basically told that was tough.

We advised them to apply to out of state/non California RN schools.

Every school they applied to accepted her. One top east coast program not only accepted her, she got a $25K scholarship per year for her 4 year program versus the 7 year B$ programs in California.

She was graduated this year with highest honors and went to work for a great hospital back east, which had hired her as a future RN for two summers and one year before she was graduated. She passed the national test for RNs and now an official RN at the same hospital.

Oregone has passed a law stating that high school graduates in Oregone do not have to pass math, English or anything to get a diploma.

That will probably become a California law in the next 3-4 years. Based on past reality, that will probably mean no math/science/Stem courses will be required to go to a California RN school. Race will be the determining factor.


66 posted on 11/21/2021 9:14:10 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Want to make America great again. Stop talking about government reform. Thanks: precisionshootist)
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To: Redmen4ever

Thanks for posting your excellent reality re California’s so called advance education.

Below is a link to what has been happening for years in California as experienced by one of our grand kids.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4014598/posts?page=66#66


67 posted on 11/21/2021 9:29:44 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Want to make America great again. Stop talking about government reform. Thanks: precisionshootist)
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To: Will88

Next, Cali. must get rid of the state bar exam, CPA exams, engineer certifications, medical board exams, etc., etc. All those also discriminate against the unqualified.

Californicator land is probably working on when to do what you have posted.


68 posted on 11/21/2021 9:31:06 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Want to make America great again. Stop talking about government reform. Thanks: precisionshootist)
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To: Midwesterner53

Precisely.


69 posted on 11/21/2021 9:37:26 AM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: karpov

The proper response is for companies to shoot for a UC graduate-free workforce.


70 posted on 11/21/2021 9:39:36 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELET)
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To: GeorgianaCavendish

“As Charles Murray and the formerly legitimate APA use to acknowledge, IQ is mostly related to your DNA, then the health of your mother prior to, during and after pregnancy, and if there is a father in the household.”

I had to laugh, not at you but at my new unread Charles Murray hard cover book, “In Pursuit of Happiness and Good Government.”

It is next on my non Kindle reading list.


71 posted on 11/21/2021 9:45:34 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Want to make America great again. Stop talking about government reform. Thanks: precisionshootist)
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To: karpov

This is wonderful news. Now we can go back to celebrity parents paying graft to get their marginally intelligent children into school. /s


72 posted on 11/21/2021 9:51:48 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: AndyJackson

“Pretty soon you are going to need a GPA of 11 on a scale of 0-4 to get into UC.”

Maybe higher if you are Asian or have white racist parents.


73 posted on 11/21/2021 9:54:34 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Want to make America great again. Stop talking about government reform. Thanks: precisionshootist)
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To: Travis McGee

And learn ebonics


74 posted on 11/21/2021 9:56:10 AM PST by x_plus_one (Two more weeks.)
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To: glennaro
In many high schools grades are a completely useless in evaluating academic achievement and in predicting academic success ... but it’s an essential exercise in futility in a society based on equity instead of equality.

Bingo!

From the article: "...faculty could find no alternative exam that would avoid the biased results that led leaders to scrap the SAT last year."

It is just one of the many intended results of the push for "diversity", which is used as a vehicle for restructuring (weakening) of our culture and civic institutions. Not at all surprising that this was initiated by Janet Napolitano.

75 posted on 11/21/2021 10:16:56 AM PST by frog in a pot (Open borders and emphasis on diversity is the opposite of a "melting pot".)
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To: karpov

Another step in the long arch to destroy America.


76 posted on 11/21/2021 12:13:17 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: karpov

this is why we have low IQ minorities on TV spouting off nonsensical rants. They all have a college degree, I’m sure.


77 posted on 11/21/2021 1:36:42 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: Billie Bud
If one really wants to measure critical reading skills, ask for a list of books read during high school years. Ask for a portfolio of written work and essays.

This can also be faked, easily.

There will be an entire industry that arises to "aid" students in creating a portfolio, just as there is in aiding them with the SAT.

Regards Bon

78 posted on 11/21/2021 4:26:18 PM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: Bon of Babble

If the college is truly seeking bright students, it’s admissions coordinators will also be bright and understand how to conduct interviews with prospective students and review portfolios.

Honestly, it’s ok to remember academia before the SAT ruled everything. If standardized tests really improved education, it certainly isn’t being reflected if we now have graduate programs where, once again,, race and gender are the overwhelming criteria.

SAT scores are just an easier path for admissions. It’s a number to use and quicker than going through each prospective student and reviewing his /her body of work presented.

The origins of the SAT test cannot be denied. Carl Brigham was a eugenicist who wanted to design what he hoped would prove Jews were intellectually inferior as a race.

If one wants to use a test score as a baseline for student proficiency, the ACT makes much more sense since it is actually a contextual exam.


79 posted on 11/21/2021 6:35:51 PM PST by Billie Bud
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To: reg45

Having something to strive for brings out the best in people. India & China’s gain, America is again scrod by the left.


80 posted on 11/22/2021 7:22:49 AM PST by JayGalt (For evil men to accomplish their purpose it is only necessary that good men should do nothing.”)
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