Posted on 11/21/2021 5:50:08 AM PST by karpov
The University of California has slammed the door shut on using any standardized test for admissions decisions, announcing Thursday that faculty could find no alternative exam that would avoid the biased results that led leaders to scrap the SAT last year.
UC Provost Michael Brown declared the end of testing for admissions decisions at a Board of Regents meeting, putting a conclusive end to more than three years of research and debate in the nation’s premier public university system on whether standardized testing does more harm than good when assessing applicants for admission.
“UC will continue to practice test-free admissions now and into the future,” Brown said to the regents, during a discussion about a possible alternative to the SAT and ACT tests.
Testing supporters argue that standardized assessments provide a uniform measure to predict the college performance of students from varied schools and backgrounds. But UC ultimately embraced opposing arguments that high school grades are a better tool without the biases based on race, income and parent education levels found in tests.
Given UC’s size and influence, the prolonged debate was closely followed nationally as a harbinger of the future of standardized testing in admissions. Its decision to permanently drop testing requirements is likely to embolden other campuses to do likewise and accelerate the national movement to seek more equitable ways to assess a student’s potential to succeed in college.
“When you have the most prestigious university system in the nation’s most populous state functioning without test scores and developing ways to do admissions fairly and accurately without them, it’s very significant,” said Bob Schaeffer, executive director of FairTest: National Center for Fair & Open Testing. “UC already is and increasingly will become a national model for test-free admissions.”
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Next, Cali. must get rid of the state bar exam, CPA exams, engineer certifications, medical board exams, etc., etc. All those also discriminate against the unqualified.
U of Texas went to top 5, in addition to traditional SAT/GPA standard. Now the U. of Cal system to GPA only.
U of Texas wound up with LOTS of students in humanities by reason of the top 5 admits who wouldn’t have been admitted by reason of the SAT/GPA standard. This somewhat degraded U of Texas non-math, non-science degrees. On the other hand, it created demand for even more professors in the humanities (most of whom are Marxists). So, no complaint from them.
Shifting to U. of Cal system, they’ve moved to GPA only. This means many average students from average and less-than average high schools will be admitted.
More specifically, at U of Texas, Top 5 admits have a hard time with math and science and, so, shift to the humanities. In the U. of Cal system, many students less than Top 5, but with a high enough GPA within their inferior high school will be admitted. They will have a difficult time even in the humanities.
Will the U. of Cal system weed out these marginal and less than marginal students? Or, will the U. of Cal system markedly degrade its humanities programs to enable these students to graduate? The answer is obvious. The U. of Cal system will do what it has to, to enable an equitable number of disadvantaged students to graduate.
Let’s now shift to average students from the better high schools of California. They will be denied admission to the U. of Cal system. Because grading inevitably reflects the students actually enrolled in a high school, a GPA of “B” in an inferior high school, might be the same as a “C” in a superior high school, and so if “B” is the cut-off, it will favor those attending inferior high schools where grading is easier.
Of course, this is entire Marxist project: to eff the middle class of this country. We know we’re the new n-word. That the elite consider us to be deplorable and irredeemable. That the elite want to take away our single-family homes, our cars, our guns, our fly-away vacations, and relegate us to the status of serfs, we are to be the worker-bees of this country, competing with illegal aliens for dead-end jobs while the elite buy the votes from minorities with more and more cash and free stuff.
Anyway, what will be the recourse will be the average students from the better high schools? My first guess is the Cal State system (e.g., Cal State-Fresno).
My guess is that there will be a surge of demand for more challenging programs in the state’s “second tier” colleges, from good (but not the best) students denied admission to the U. Cal system because of admissions based only on GPA.
And so the overall California system of higher education will become more segregated by race and class. With the first tier (U. Cal system) serving the elite and the minorities, and the second tier (Cal State system) serving the middle-class.
Secondarily, there will be increased demand for private and out-of-state college, and reduced political support for public education.
As public education is transformed from providing a ticket up the socio-economic ladder for children and young adults regardless of their status at birth, into a means for the elite to consolidate their rule, it (public education) will be seen as just another tax on those who work.
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“ And all the grads get jobs in politics, the media, or the government (the only employers whose standards are low enough to hire them).”
Makes my job as a hiring manager that much easier.
Black kid from crappy HS, parents no help.
Busts his butt in school, study’s his arse off and gets TOP SCORES on SAT and ACT.
But is now just seen as another deprived minority.
No standards and low expectation racism hurts minority’s the most and in so many ways.
But white Liberals think they are helping.
Burn It All Down.
The only thing that matters is race. Why not have a requirement that all things must be balanced on race, including all sports teams.
Don’t waste your money here you’ll get nothing but Brainwashing unless you want to be brainwashed ,LOL
Follow the money. In many states, those lower in socio-economic status qualify for free college (but not room and board). But sometimes, due to bad grades and poor SAT results, minority students (and whites for that matter) can’t get in. Enrollment in college is also down. How do you increase tuition dollars for overpriced universities? Let more students in, even if they aren’t qualified.
Here in Indiana the SAT (IQ test of what you know) and the ASVAB (the most widely given and accurate IQ test of what a person is able to learn) is a part of the graduation pathway. Schools are shelling out lots of $$$ for prep and testing aps to improve these scores..... And it isn’t working. As Charles Murray and the formerly legitimate APA use to acknowledge, IQ is mostly related your DNA, then the health of your mother prior to, during and after pregnancy, and if there is a father in the household.
The tests aren’t irrelevant. They are very relevant and very accurate. As I tell my psych students:. If you don’t like IQ testing and think it’s inaccurate, then you have to get rid of all psychology.... Bc all of the framework and development of scientific method in psychology comes from the development of IQ testing (aka the most accurate thing in psychology).
The UC system has always been very proud of their top 10 ratings in the college ranking system; Berkeley is often rated the #1 public university in the U.S., with other UCs filling out the rest of the top 10.
There goes that.
True enough, I suppose, but if colleges are anything like they were in my day, even many students with high SAT scores shift to soft subjects because of the grading system in math and science. The change will make it worse, but it happens a lot even without the change.
One of the main purposes of the SAT, especially the English comprehension/vocabulary portion, was to determine whether or not a student is capable of handling college-level reading, which college-level texts are written in.
The tests were absolute measures of college success - because they determined reading levels, which are necessary in each and every course (or used to be), including mathematics.
I expect college level texts to be dumbed down to compensate for low reading levels - as high school texts have been in the past few decades.
I have yet to hear a plausible explanation as to how the tests discriminate against blacks and Hispanics, or anyone else.
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The SAT should be scrapped. It was the quick and easy way to admit based on scoring alone. The tests are conceptual and not contextual. I sat in on coaching sessions for higher scores for the tests. The students were taught tricks to choose the right answer.
In my opinion, admissions should be based on interviews and a portfolio of actual project and research work. We are so ingrained into “the academic path,” we don’t even know how else to function.
Berkeley did this because it was unhappy with the very large percentage of Orientals who were eligible. Something had to be done to reduce their entries and increase minuscule Black enrollment. The effect? This ought to increase the percentage of Blacks in the phony Social Sciences and, especially, in Black Studies. It will also reduce the importance of a Berkeley degree outside the pure sciences.
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We will have to disagree on this issue.
My husband is a college counselor, I am a retired teacher of 33 years and my dad and uncles were college professors.
The SAT determined reading levels, absolutely critical for success in college. Scrapping it will allow those with low reading levels into the UCs - I taught mostly 11th and 12th grade and was lucky if a few of them had 9th grade reading levels.
Regards,
Bon
IMHO we need standardized testing across the board.
The tests will be given in 5th, 9th, and 12 th. grades.
If you can’t pass the tests there should be vocational training.
“When you have the most prestigious university system in the nation’s most populous state functioning without test scores and developing ways to do admissions fairly and accurately without them, it’s very significant,”
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Soon “used to be the most prestigious”!
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