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You lost me there. Who is saying some %?

It probably doesn’t matter. Thing is, I am able to effectively monitor somewhere over 10 thousand people, most in what’s been a relatively hot region. I’m not going to go through the whole explanation again — this monitoring is via contacts (including a number of trusted friends) who are health care pros, through my wife’s work (teacher in a decent size private school - many contacts, and most quite conservative, too), through two churches (total membership around 1k parishioners — though my wife and I don’t know all this group well, we certainly know quite a few, plus the pastors and other leaders), and quite a number of my former business contacts and other friends outside of health care.

Now, I’m sure if push came to shove a few of the above people might disappoint me or my wife, turn out to be untrustworthy, etc., but, as a group I trust them a hell of a lot more than articles on the Web by highly biased people.

So, what do my wife and I hear back?

Of all the people we directly talk to, we know of NO vaccinated person who has died of COVID. To be fair, none of my current contacts has passed unvaccinated, either. Closest would be a very close friend of mine whose Dad I considered sort of a role model: His Dad died unvacc’d of Covid complications. My wife has had 3 unvacc’d classmates, two of whom she knew well, pass from Covid / complications. (Those 3 are a bit spooky, all seemingly fairly healthy and ~ 51 y/o.) The worst vaccine reaction was my wife’s whole body rash a few days after her Moderna 2nd shot, which rash LOOKED scary, but presented almost no discomfort, and went away overnight. (We are not even SURE it was due to the shot, but, the timing is suspect.)

However, expanding the field to people our direct contacts know directly, not including the health care pros, we are up to almost 20 fatalities. (There is a bit of confusion on one: We may have a duplicate report involving a nickname.) ALL were unvaccinated. That is a bit skewed of course because several passed before vaccines were available. But, it is still quite significant, IMO.

The worst vaccine reaction I’ve been able to track down outside of the health care pro’s was a guy who had a shingles-like major body rash (tho’ not as painful as a full scale shingles case, it was irritating) for ~ 4 weeks.)

Now, the health care pros we know DO know of vaccinated Covid fatalities, but, they are running 1:10 to the unvaccinated fatalities. Most of the vacc’d fatalities are people with immune systems that turned out to be too compromised to be fired up properly by a vaccine.

The other side is that none of these health care pros has had as their patient someone with a vaccine reaction worse than a brief admission to the ER (and there is considerable suspicion a good part of that was a psychosomatic reaction to a mild base reaction.)

Although much more anecdotal, I’ll add that I took what I would unvacc’d (etc.) consider to be a considerable risk, recently: A 27 hour cross country bus trip. Oh, boy, if you’ve not taken such a trip in recent years...! And I do have moderate risk factors. BUT, I’m vacc’d (Moderna) and know my way around proper mitigation and have 3M N95 masks. It was pretty clear that to not come down with a big time Covid infection, either I’d have to be dang lucky, or the vacc and the masks work well.

It appears they worked. :-)

I go 1st and foremost by careful observation of real things around me. (It was part of my training.)

I’ll leave it at that.

Keep taking care on your end too! :-)