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New Docs Show That Ashli Babbitt was Shot for 'No Good Reason'
townhall.com ^ | 10/14/2021 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 10/14/2021 7:29:55 AM PDT by rktman

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To: Osage Orange

Opinions vary.


61 posted on 10/14/2021 8:50:50 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: bhl

Babbitt’s real crime was supporting Trump and like others before her she got the death penalty for doing that. You might consider those “simple” facts before smearing her memory.


62 posted on 10/14/2021 8:52:10 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: blueunicorn6
"There weren’t other gunshots."

OMG don't threaten these FRacebookers with LOGIC.

Which top official gave the obvious "Hold Fire" order? And why did Byrd-brain disobey?


63 posted on 10/14/2021 8:52:51 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least ONE of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson)
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To: JBW1949

She was part of a crowd that had already breached deep into the building. I’d take a guy with a baseball bat over a crowd that had just violently entered the area I’m charged to protect.

But that’s just me...It’s easy to armchair analyze this later - and dangerous when bias colors your perspective. In my case, my heart is completely with the protesters. But this was just a really bad situation and all the pieces fit together to result in what happened.

At least, that is how I see it, and opinions vary.


64 posted on 10/14/2021 8:53:35 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: blueunicorn6
A small woman with no weapons is trying to balance while crouched on a window frame. The people behind her, including several policemen, are calling it a day and leaving. She has to be shot? There weren’t other gunshots. The police behind here weren’t struggling with anyone. She might have been trying to find a quicker way out. The police were all over the stairs. A five year old could have pushed her backwards.

Exactly, Byrd panicked. Probably thought he was going to be raped, like AOC did.

65 posted on 10/14/2021 8:54:23 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: subterfuge

Dumbest comment this week.


Hey, I’m here all weekend. Don’t forget to tip your waitress! 😃


66 posted on 10/14/2021 8:54:25 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: babble-on
I can't believe anyone sees it any other way.’

Of course people can have a different perspective.

If you are a Bodyguard in a position where you are cornered and persons are coming toward your ‘Protectee’ and you have no idea if they are armed or otherwise dangerous, you must respond to the potential threat.

Imagine that someone managed to get into the Oval Office while the President was in there. Would you expect the Secret Service to do nothing? I think that the Intruder ought properly be shot in the head. What else is the SS expected to do, read them their Rights while there is chaos all around?

There is always another way to look at things.

67 posted on 10/14/2021 8:54:54 AM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I think that is a distinct possibility, and the shooter was not in on it. Their leaving, followed by the “huns” smashing the door and starting to get through would have influenced his decision to shoot.

That’s the thing - It is tragic what happened, but it is a simple fact that doing what she was doing brought risks that never crossed her mind. I don’t think they thought anyone would shoot, but pushed far enough, they will. This wasn’t the outside entrance to a walmart.


68 posted on 10/14/2021 8:57:08 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: cuban leaf

My point is there needs to be one legal standard. Not one for liberal protesters and a different one for conservative protesters....

If the accepted standard for assassinating Ashli Babbitt (an unarmed woman- a vet) - applies to all equally, then when a cop says ‘STOP’ and the BLM protesters don’t STOP - - the cop has the right to murder them. Right there on the spot. Each cop becomes judge, jury and executioner.

Or do you think murdering protesters should only apply to protesters who are conservative? (PS I also thought
George Floyd was murdered... and supported the sentence )


69 posted on 10/14/2021 8:57:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (Military suicide deaths last year: 580- By COVID:56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOC_dcuJO48)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Exactly right. If she had been black cities would still be burning across America today with shouts of black lives matter. What a disgusting upside down world we live in right now.


70 posted on 10/14/2021 8:57:35 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Runner4life

I don’t miss pantywaist.


Was there supposed to be a comma in that sentence? If so, when you insult people, make sure you do it correctly. It’s important that ad-hom attacks be grammatically correct.

BTW, I was talking about the other cops in the room. If you discharge your weapon at another person, any other armed people have been given carte blanch to engage you, post haste.


71 posted on 10/14/2021 8:59:44 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: GOPJ

I had a hard time with the Kent State shooting. When I heard about it, I actually had an attitude that, in modern terms, could be summed up as, “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.”.

And you and I disagree strongly on the Floyd case. I don’t think that cop was a boy scout and there were probably a lot of bad things he did in the past, but this one was by the book.

IMO.


72 posted on 10/14/2021 9:01:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: Obadiah

You missed the “unless being performed by the capital popo during an alleged intrusion into the chambers.” portion.


73 posted on 10/14/2021 9:02:48 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: blueunicorn6

Yup. Hand to the forehead and a slight shove and she would have been sent backwards. Unless the swat team was pushing her forward and bracing her. But, regarless, the dem operatives will skate. We’ll have to wait and see if a civil suit brings any new light to it.


74 posted on 10/14/2021 9:05:28 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: lodi90

You didn’t answer my question: How far would protesters get into the White House? You can’t just allow unauthorized people to keep advancing.

Her real crime was breaching a secure government facility protected by armed security. Same result if she was a left-wing hippy trying to get past the Marines to “peacefully protest” nuclear weapons.


75 posted on 10/14/2021 9:05:31 AM PDT by bhl
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To: babble-on

Oh please

Lord u buy the narrative dear

It was hardly the bastille and dickens rendition

Or 1812

Here’s your mob storming the capital

https://nypost.com/2021/01/07/capitol-police-hold-door-for-pro-trump-protesters-video-shows/

https://welovetrump.com/2021/05/18/watch-leaked-video-shows-capitol-police-giving-ok-to-protestors-to-peacefully-assemble-on-jan-6th/

Real mob storming govt building

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/01/07/antifa-try-to-break-into-portland-courthouse-move-to-streets-and-smash-up-businesses-when-that-fails-1013650/

https://trishintel.com/watch-antifa-storms-portland-dem-party-headquarters/

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=protestors%20occupy%20wisconsin%20capitol%20building&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DzeLDmITyAG0


76 posted on 10/14/2021 9:05:48 AM PDT by wardaddy (Too many uninformed ..)
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To: JBW1949
There was no crowd busting through...

Well then how did that window get broken?

77 posted on 10/14/2021 9:09:36 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: StAnDeliver

She was breaching a secure government facility that was known by all to be protected with deadly force. Her family has no civil case. The guard prevented her and everyone behind her from advancing. Try breaching a nuclear facility or the White House and see how far your next of kin gets with a civil lawsuit.


78 posted on 10/14/2021 9:12:11 AM PDT by bhl
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To: AndyJackson

I hope folks realize that if our republic survives it will be because of a few genuine heroes who work tirelessly such as Fitton, Project Veritas and a couple of others.

* * *

Amen to that.


79 posted on 10/14/2021 9:13:37 AM PDT by poconopundit (Hard oak fist in an Irish velvet glove: Kayleigh the Shillelagh we salute your work!)
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To: cuban leaf

Yeah like looks.....


80 posted on 10/14/2021 9:13:47 AM PDT by Osage Orange (1961 VW Two Door Truck)
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