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Johnson says UK energy production to go 100% green by 2035
France24 ^ | October 4, 2021

Posted on 10/04/2021 6:38:43 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: CIB-173RDABN

And notice the costs involved

Cheapest price I have seen for solar in GA is $16,000 after the government subsidies.

So assume it results in a 50% saving on my monthly electricity bill. Solar does not replace your elctric bill, it merely provide a 2nd power supply.

That would mean after I install it it will take a minimum of 13 years to recover the cost via lower electricity bills.

That does not include the cost of upkeep during the time I own the home.


41 posted on 10/04/2021 7:36:30 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Back to the Dark Ages. The whaling industry will be jump started.


42 posted on 10/04/2021 7:37:43 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: FreedomPoster

yeah that one of the overlooked problems with “green energy”

It is much less efficient so therefore much more costly.
Higher energy costs created by shifting to “green” energy, hurt the poorest segments of a society the worse and they are the least able to absorb them


43 posted on 10/04/2021 7:40:01 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Like a big volcano eruption?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/lava-from-spanish-volcano-surges-after-crater-collapse/ar-AAP6WjJ


44 posted on 10/04/2021 7:40:38 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: MNJohnnie


45 posted on 10/04/2021 7:44:04 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: MNJohnnie

I had a nice chat with a Georgia Power / Southern Company person in the last couple days. She is involved with the old hydro plants. Remember the full solar eclipse a few years ago? Only partial in GA, but full in KY, TN and SC.

All the hydro plants were idling at minimum output, then all ramped up big time as the eclipse hit and all the solar dropped significantly. Southern Company was very afraid they might have blackouts caused by the drop. Hydro kept that from happening, but only with good load planning for the event.


46 posted on 10/04/2021 7:45:58 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The 100% fetish is the mark of insanity.

It signals that these people are converts to Reverend Al Gore’s “climate change” religion and not people interested in conserving fossil fuels for possible use by future generations.

My grilling a steak on a charcoal fire will not doom mankind.


47 posted on 10/04/2021 7:51:48 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: MNJohnnie

“America in particular uses too much energy”

Mr. Gates, here is your monthly ration book.

Mr. Gore, here is your monthly ration book.

One to a person.

No, you can’t buy other people’s coupons.

What do you not understand about equality, comrade Gore?


48 posted on 10/04/2021 7:57:51 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
And the Lefties will find something else to complain about in 3..2..1..

49 posted on 10/04/2021 7:59:08 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
There is no evidence that industrial wind power is likely to have a significant impact on carbon emissions. The European experience is instructive.

Denmark, the world's most wind-intensive nation, with more than 6,000 turbines generating 19% of its electricity, has yet to close a single fossil-fuel plant.

It requires 50% more coal-generated electricity to cover wind power's unpredictability, and pollution and carbon dioxide emissions have risen (by 36% in 2006 alone).

Flemming Nissen, the head of development at West Danish generating company ELSAM (one of Denmark's largest energy utilities) tells us that "wind turbines do not reduce carbon dioxide emissions."

The German experience is no different. Der Spiegel reports that "Germany's CO2 emissions haven't been reduced by even a single gram," and additional coal-and gas-fired plants have been constructed to ensure reliable delivery.

Indeed, recent academic research shows that wind power may actually increase greenhouse gas emissions in some cases, depending on the carbon-intensity of back-up generation required because of its intermittent character.

On the negative side of the environmental ledger are adverse impacts of industrial wind turbines on birdlife and other forms of wildlife, farm animals, wetlands and viewsheds.

Suck it up Greenies.

50 posted on 10/04/2021 8:06:59 AM PDT by spokeshave (White Confederate statue kills black man......Another month of protests.... (HT to seawolf101))
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To: spokeshave
On the dust of history...early generation Green Energy producers being scrapped as inefficient...clogging up land fills.


51 posted on 10/04/2021 8:11:31 AM PDT by spokeshave (White Confederate statue kills black man......Another month of protests.... (HT to seawolf101))
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To: CIB-173RDABN
People that believe in Green Energy are not critical thinkers.
Most do not realize how electricity is actually produced or transmitted from the power source to your house.

The least expensive power in the world comes from hydro electricity. Yet, typically these dams, with few exceptions(Niagara Falls, St Lawrence River, Hoover Dam) are not that close to where most of the power is consumed.

The second least expensive way to generate electricity typically has been with nuclear power. The heat from the nuclear reaction is used to heat water to steam and turn a turbine. However, most of these power plants needed to be built out in the country because of NIMBY effect. However, then you have to transmit the power of longer distances to get it to where most of the demand is.

This is why power plants were built in close proximity to cities. These power plants needed to burn some fuel, to boil water and turn a turbine. Most of these originally burned coal. Some burned natural gas where it was available by pipeline. Some burned wood waste. Some now even burn household trash. However, natural gas has become so cheap in the USA because of fracking that it is now cheaper than some nuclear plants.

Windmills also can be used to turn a turbine. However, to make them work economically they have to be huge. The bigger the better. Also, the more in one place the better. Again, most people do not a 600’ windmill in their backyard. So, the best place to build these is offshore.

Lastly is solar panels. They can be put almost anywhere. However, they only produce electricity when the sun is shining. Therefore, they make more economic sense in Santa Fe, NM than they do in London.

We all know the pitfalls of all of these types of power generation. So, the correct solution is a combination of all. When you CHOOSE to eliminate some is when the problem starts.

You need to have a method to store the power for when demand is high. This is the main problem with renewables. Not to mention the environmental impact to produce and dispose of supposed “green energy” products.

Pretty much all the rivers have been damned in developed countries. Nobody wants a nuclear reactor in the backyard.
Most people do not want windmill in their backyard. Nobody wants to live downwind from a coal fired power plant.
So, what is the alternative?
Some say thorium salt reactors?
I do not know.
However, whoever comes up with the solution deserves the Nobel Prize.

52 posted on 10/04/2021 8:12:11 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Modern day tilting at windmills.


53 posted on 10/04/2021 8:16:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Delusional - bump for later....


54 posted on 10/04/2021 8:31:37 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sure it is. LMAO


55 posted on 10/04/2021 9:59:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So in days that are both cloudy and windless no energy in Britain


56 posted on 10/04/2021 10:03:06 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clinton’s )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Johnson lied to get to be prime minister and now is going full socialist.


57 posted on 10/04/2021 10:26:35 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And U.K. energy prices to go up 150-200% if the U.K. pushes for Johnson’s goal.


58 posted on 10/04/2021 12:32:06 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

At some point this climate farce is going to collapse. Before that point people will starve, become financially stressed or bankrupt, our food supply will be stressed, all supplies and products will be in shortage and skyrocket in price.

At some point it will obvious, it may take years, but because people will see where the power and the money went, and it will be the democrat leftists and collaborators in foreign powers.
-like the CCP
-like the Russians
-like the OPEC nations,.

If at that point there are not leftists hanging from the street lamp posts, then we don’t deserve to survive as a free nation.


59 posted on 10/04/2021 1:38:47 PM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They won’t need any energy by 2035 because they will all freeze to death before then.


60 posted on 10/04/2021 7:09:28 PM PDT by EastTexasTraveler
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