wardaddy to BroJoeK, post #350:
"And this notion 1860 democrats are the same as today’s loons is Glen Beck And Levin and Shapiro neocon nonsense propagated to deflect charges of racism against the GOPe from media and progressives" Given the context, that does sound like Mark Levin.
woodpusher to TwelveOfTwenty, post #479: "Your only exalted source is this tripe from your progressive Bostonian Kevin Levin."
I found no place where TwelveOfTwenty mentions someone named Kevin Levin, but woodpusher goes on & on & on about Levin as if he were relevant to someone, somewhere, somehow...
The issue there seemed to be how many slaves served the Confederate army, and the number 300,000 got thrown around.
So 300,000 seems reasonable to me, but then the question is: were any of those considered Confederate soldiers?
The answer is, in the beginning there were a few here or there -- a New Orleans regiment of freed blacks formed, but never fought and was soon-enough forced to disband.
It reformed later as a Union colored regiment.
Some other black units were mentioned but all disbanded, some former slaves said they were forced to man artillery pieces, occasional reports by Union soldiers of being shot at by black Confederates.
This drawing from an 1862 Union publication:
But the fact remains that blacks -- whether freed or slaves -- were not officially allowed to serve as Confederate soldiers, and so it's likely the only ones who did could pass as whites.
How many were there?
A few, on rare occasions, is all I could find mentioned.
Occasional suggestions to make soldiers of slaves were met with responses like this:
"Such an act on our part would be a stigma on the imperishable pages of history, of which all future generations of Southrons would be ashamed.
These are some of the additional considerations which have suggested themselves to us.
Let us put the negro to work, but not to fight."
— Atlanta Southern Confederacy, (January 20, 1865), Macon, Georgia.[100]"
FLT-bird to woodpusher post #492:
"This is typical of the PC Revisionists here.
They claim to be conservatives.....yet they happily get in bed with open and avowed Leftists like Levin to make their arguments." And yet nobody except Lost Causers on this thread mentioned either Mark Levin or a Kevin Levin, but somehow that name "Levin" drives our Lost Causers nuts.
Sounds like obsession. ![]()
Sounds like obsession. Really....from you.That’s laughable .
As is your poor habit of attributing arguments and statements to detractors here that they didn’t say....a sign of a lazy academic ...if one is to believe your toadie
No I do not like Levin or Shapiro or Goldberg or Beck or Romney or Lowery or the Bushes ...all neocon moderates at best and nevertrumpers ....
I love Donald Trump...I think he’s a mensch and he fights and he speaks up for my part of the country and our heritage ...nay he defends it and our monuments ....courage. And from a helluva Yankee.....as one who lived amongst them for many years I know few share yours and your chihuahuas views on Dixie
I’ll bet most posters here who support the complicated version of the civil war and its aftermath (like me) as opposed to your neoabolitionist “racism the horror” black and white Politico cliff notes version also admire Trump for this as well as his other pluses....I would note the founder of this forum is also on record supporting this as well. As in opposing monument removal
It came as no surprise to me that as 2015-2016 unfolded I saw many a south hater here took the NEVERTRUMPER ROLE here
So where were you mister professor....you know we’ve had not one but two professors here ....I suspect more...exposed as lefties and zotted over the past 20:years....they lived on Southerners are Hitler threads ....like the garbage your deranged pygmy BJK self spouts ....do you freepmail him like index cards ....you know ....like Marc Elias provides Biden.....bullet points....I think that’s sweet actually ..lol
wardaddy to BroJoeK, post #350: "And this notion 1860 democrats are the same as today’s loons is Glen Beck And Levin and Shapiro neocon nonsense propagated to deflect charges of racism against the GOPe from media and progressives"
Given the context, that does sound like Mark Levin.
woodpusher to TwelveOfTwenty, post #479: "Your only exalted source is this tripe from your progressive Bostonian Kevin Levin."
I found no place where TwelveOfTwenty mentions someone named Kevin Levin, but woodpusher goes on & on & on about Levin as if he were relevant to someone, somewhere, somehow...
You been smoking with Hunter again?
TwelveOfTwenty #466 (21 Oct 2021) to woodpusher #462
And what records? There are any number of resources that would dispute that number. I've listed a few below. Black Confederates: Truth and Legend
Confederacy approves Black soldiers (March 13, 1865)
Here's one blogger that isn't impressed.
Blacks in Gray or "Enough is Enough""
Just because someone can publish their beliefs in a book doesn't mean the rest of us have to accept their conclusions. It wasn't 300,000. It wasn't even near the 100,000+ slaves that escaped to join the Union Army.
TwelveOfTwenty did not identify the author [Kevin D. Levin] of his cited article, nor did he cite or quote anything therein. Perhaps he thinks he is issuing homework assignments. There was an embedded link. I looked at what it was, something you apparently could not be bothered with. I responded to TwelveOfTwenty.
woodpusher #479 (23 Oct 2021) to #466
https://cwmemory.com/2006/06/08/blacks-in-gray-or-enough-is-enough/Blacks in Gray or "Enough is Enough"" Just because someone can publish their beliefs in a book doesn't mean the rest of us have to accept their conclusions. It wasn't 300,000. It wasn't even near the 100,000+ slaves that escaped to join the Union Army.
Your only exalted source is this tripe from your progressive Bostonian Kevin Levin. Let us examine what you dragged up and brought in here. You are free to attempt to pass off this radical partisan as a serious scholar, whose words carry significant weight.
I provided the link to the article in immediately readable, unembedded form so any reader would know exactly what the link was, and know the purported authority. I then provided lots of information from Kevin D. Levin clearly confirming him to be a highly partisan progressive writer, notably from the pages of the failing magazine, The Atlantic.
TwelveOfTwenty responded with his #489 (25 Oct 2021)
You forgot to quote anything or identify the famous author who is your source of authority.
Why would I? Everything is at the link. Unlike you, I don't feel the need to flood our generous hosts' resources with tons of spam repeating what can be found simply by clicking on the link and reading.
Here I come to save the day!
You would do better to save FR some bandwidth by just making your point without spamming the forum with other people's writings that happen to agree with you.
When citing something as a source of authority, the name of the author and at least a cite to the specific content relative to the conversation is necessary if one is to make any point at all. Leaving that off just further demonstrated that much of his posting is pointless drivel sourced to such as the radically progressive, liberal Kevin D. Levin without proper attribution, hopeful of sliding it past.
Then along comes bumbling BroJoeK, off his meds, in need of a nap, his cognitive Biden issues brought forward, posting this ridiculous rant:
BroJoeK #512 (26 Oct 2021) replying to wardaddy #505
wardaddy to BroJoeK, post #350: "And this notion 1860 democrats are the same as today’s loons is Glen Beck And Levin and Shapiro neocon nonsense propagated to deflect charges of racism against the GOPe from media and progressives"
Given the context, that does sound like Mark Levin.
woodpusher to TwelveOfTwenty, post #479: "Your only exalted source is this tripe from your progressive Bostonian Kevin Levin."
I found no place where TwelveOfTwenty mentions someone named Kevin Levin, but woodpusher goes on & on & on about Levin as if he were relevant to someone, somewhere, somehow...
Just how hard did you not look? All you had to do is look at the linked article at #466 or #479. In addition, what you nominally responded to, by wardaddy, is lacking any mention of your rant material. Take your meds, take a nap, and try to improve your effort.
wardaddy #505, to which your #512 nominally responded, made no mention of woodpusher, any Levin, or TwelveOfTwenty.
To: BroJoeK If you really are a professor per your sychophants assertion then you’re a simpleton lacking intellectual curiosity
Comparing Davis or Lee to a 2021 democrat is just stupid
It’s like arguing gender today
Not surprising for a leftist
I doubt you’ve shed blood or sacrificed for much...you don’t have time..you live here
I could be wrong ...you can claim anything here
You could be Audie Murphy
In my view the radical Republicans whose boots you lather were the equivalent of today’s nut jobs on the left
Their peers and history calls them RADICAL REPUBLICANS for a reason
505 posted on 10/25/2021, 12:16:46 PM by wardaddy (Too many uninformed ..and scolds here )
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FLT-bird to woodpusher post #492: "This is typical of the PC Revisionists here. They claim to be conservatives.....yet they happily get in bed with open and avowed Leftists like Levin to make their arguments."
And yet nobody except Lost Causers on this thread mentioned either Mark Levin or a Kevin Levin, but somehow that name "Levin" drives our Lost Causers nuts.
Sounds like obsession.
Looks like delusion.
For the aforementioned reasons, take your meds, take a nap, and try harder. Your delusions and fantasies about Lost Causers appear to have seized control of one of your two brain cells.