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To: knighthawk

What’s so “unthinkable” about that? The Founders fully intended for each state to have the unilateral right of secession. 3 states expressly reserved that right when they ratified the Constitution. 2 of those 3 were the leaders of their respective sections of the country, New York and Virginia. Every state understood itself to have that right.

but enough of the legality and history, let’s talk about the current state of things. a large section of the country is ruled by authoritarian Leftists. They seek to impose their rule on everybody and have nothing but contempt for any who dare disagree. Many institutions such as the new media, the entertainment industry, Academia, the federal bureaucracy, the senior ranks of the military and increasingly the judicial branch of the federal government are hopelessly corrupt bastions of these authoritarian Leftists.

It is not possible for us to live together. It would be much preferable that we peacefully separate. The alternative is a bloodbath.


40 posted on 10/02/2021 4:44:39 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird; knighthawk
"The Founders fully intended for each state to have the unilateral right of secession. 3 states expressly reserved that right when they ratified the Constitution. "

All Founders recognized a "Right of secesdipn" under two, but only two conditions.

  1. From necessity as in 1776, for serious material reasons such as those spelled out in their Declarstion.

  2. By mutual consent as in 1788 when when states voted to ratify the new Constitution and so "secede" from the Articles of Confederation.
No Founder ever supported an unlimited "Right of secession" at pleasure.
185 posted on 10/04/2021 7:48:40 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: FLT-bird

I thought that with Jan.6 and the rise of a Biden we had missed the bullet and Civil War was no longer on the table—But the Democrat-Progressives are beating the drum—The goal, I believe, is to start a Civil War, Crush it (with Chinese-Russian Help) and establish a Democratic-Socialist new Republic. With will have Democrat oligarchs in total power for the next century. I believe that their half Communism (like present China) will not work and slip into a bloody Maoist State that will see the rich shot and a full Communist dictatorship installed. Now, it seems we will have Civil War. Red “Free” states vs Blue “Federalist” States. The was will chew up much of what has been built along with many lives. It will resemble the Russian Civil War, Red vs White rather than that other one in 1861-5. IF it happens, and I pray it doesn’t, we better hope the Red States win.


615 posted on 11/08/2021 3:32:10 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( ALWAYS GO FORWARD AND NEVER GO BACK.)
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