[enumerated]

BroJoeK, your belief - that the South caused that tragic war and that Lincoln’s cause was noble - is just as misguided as the belief by so many - that President Trump led his MAGA followers to mount a violent insurrection last January 6.

You have been brainwashed to accept a one-sided narrative, and there’s nothing I can ever do to change that.

[DiogenesLamp]

You have been brainwashed to accept a one-sided narrative, and there’s nothing I can ever do to change that.

This is what I figured out years ago, and I realized you can't reason a man out of a position he didn't reason himself into.

I had a good friend from Allentown Pennsylvania, and he was a big Eagles fan. The Eagles could do no wrong. They were the greatest football team ever. Eagles Eagles Eagles. Eagles tee shirts, Eagles coffee cups, Eagles posters, Eagles memorabilia. Eagles Tattoo.

This is BroJoeK. He has the adoration of a loving fan, and he is immutable to reason about his "Team." He cannot be objective, he is simply incapable of it.

You want to hear how the Eagles are the greatest football team ever in the history of the World? Talk to BroJoeK. You want to hear the truth? Talk to other people.

[BroJoeK]

enumerated: "You have been brainwashed to accept a one-sided narrative, and there’s nothing I can ever do to change that."

DiogenesLamp: "This is what I figured out years ago, and I realized you can't reason a man out of a position he didn't reason himself into."

You guys are just typical Democrats, projecting your own mind-set onto others.
You are describing yourselves here.

And here's how you can know the truth about Fort Sumter: Jefferson Davis had a choice, war or peace, and he chose war.
He was accurately warned against war, by his Secretary of State, Toombs, but he chose to ignore the warning.
Why? -- that's the question answered in my post #312 above.

But you guys won't read the post, you don't care what reasons Davis had or didn't have, because in your minds none of that matters, what does matter to you is: how evil & wicked was "Ape" Lincoln.

Facts are still facts, regardless of your passions for ignoring them.